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re: Looking to move to BR

Posted on 6/18/09 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 6/18/09 at 12:42 pm to
I accidentally clicked on the wrong area.




1 homocide, 5 rapes, 84 robberies, 74 aggravated assaults, 311 burglaries, 752 larcenies, 57 motor thefts and 10 arsons.

LINK

The robberies and burglaries are still very high IMO.

Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101846 posts
Posted on 6/18/09 at 12:44 pm to
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1 homocide, 5 rapes, 84 robberies, 74 aggravated assaults, 311 burglaries, 752 larcenies, 57 motor thefts and 10 arsons.

LINK

The robberies and burglaries are still very high IMO.


Good thing you got out while you could.

God only knows what might have happened to you had you not.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/18/09 at 12:45 pm to
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The robberies and burglaries are still very high IMO.


For that ENTIRE district...which if I'm not mistaken, includes Brandywine...

That district is easily 10-15 square miles...
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/18/09 at 12:49 pm to
Check out the numbers for Ascension from last year...in a parish that has only 90,000 people

LINK

106 Burglaries in just the Northwest Zone?!?!?! I thought it was safe...
This post was edited on 6/18/09 at 12:50 pm
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 6/18/09 at 12:59 pm to
Are you really going to compare a PARISH for an entire YEAR versus a district for 4 months? I doubt that district has 90K people too.

Must be nice to hide from the school system problem because it doesnt fit your argument. The majority of people would rather their kids go to a quality public school rather than pay a shite load of their income to send them to private schools because the public schools are horrible. Just because you want to send your potential kids to catholic schools does not mean thats what you should base your advice to the OP on. Fact is that BR has a bubble on its home values which will not last. Argue all you want the crime is going up in BR NOT down. Its simply not a wise investment to buy in BR and even worse to buy in BR and raise a family.
This post was edited on 6/18/09 at 1:00 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/18/09 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

Are you really going to compare a PARISH for an entire YEAR versus a district for 4 months? I doubt that district has 90K people too.


You fail at reading...

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Must be nice to hide from the school system problem because it doesnt fit your argument.


I merely said it because I didn't have any knowledge on the subject. Not trying to hide from it...
This post was edited on 6/18/09 at 1:04 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101846 posts
Posted on 6/18/09 at 1:03 pm to
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Catman88
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, LA


So, when are you planning to bail on the entire area?

If the future prospects for the main population center of a metro area are so horridly abyssmal, can there really any hope for the metro area as a whole? Seems choosing to stay in even any of the surrounding communities almost defies logic, if you really believe such a horrible catastrophe is about to unfold.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 6/18/09 at 1:03 pm to
What did I miss??

quote:

Statistics Year 2008



On your link


On his link which you are referring to:

It was for 4 months..

Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/18/09 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

On his link which you are referring to:

It was for 4 months..


No shite, but you can click on that nice little number that says 2008 and look back.

The point was that crime is present in Ascension...I could argue that I feel just as safe in a place like Broadmoor or the Garden District as opposed to XYZ subdivision in an outlying parish.

Personally, I don't care who lives there. I'm just sick of people saying they are moving there because Baton Rouge (read: area's south of FL Blvd) are scary and unsafe.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 6/18/09 at 1:10 pm to
I see it becoming like New Orleans..

You can do very well living in St Tammany and raise a family with a quality school system or you can live in the city and send your kids to private schools.

I dont have a family yet but plan to soon and I have to do what is best for them.. Buying a house where I know value will decrease with high probability and I DEF know the school system is shot means I will find a place better to raise my family. If that ultimately means I have to move to another area so be it.

Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/18/09 at 1:13 pm to
I guess those in Jefferson Parish are just SOL then??

Let me guess, no. Because that would be too close...

quote:

Buying a house where I know value will decrease with high probability


Home values in Southdowns, Garden District, etc are going to decrease with high probability??
This post was edited on 6/18/09 at 1:15 pm
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 6/18/09 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

Personally, I don't care who lives there. I'm just sick of people saying they are moving there because Baton Rouge (read: area's south of FL Blvd) are scary and unsafe.


I live in BR and I find it safe where I live. But I dont know if that will be true 10-15 years from now either. When choosing to buy a home I dont consider what things are like RIGHT NOW.. I consider where they are heading.. Look at your stats in 1999 and compare them to today..

For me I require:

Safety that is fairly constant
Home values that are not likely to fall
Public school system that is competent

I wish BR had all these but it doesnt..
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 6/18/09 at 1:19 pm to
I dont know enough about Jeff Parish since I have not lived there to know how the school system is.

quote:


Home values in Southdowns, Garden District, etc are going to decrease with high probability??


Yes uhh thats GREAT for the people that got in 15 years ago..

Who is going to spend the money to start a family there now? Thats like saying New Orleans is nice and there are nice areas because you can move into a mansion on St Charles. Last I checked the OP was looking for something in the 100-150 range.. Where can you find that in BR and NOT be in a questionable area?
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/18/09 at 1:22 pm to
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Where can you find that in BR and NOT be in a questionable area?


I just looked at two homes for sale in good condition asking $149,000.

One was off Brightside in the neighborhood next to Riverbend: Safe.

The other was a block off Highland before Staring: Safe.

And you really have got to be kidding me to think that Garden District, Southdowns, etc etc will look like plank road in 15 years...
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38675 posts
Posted on 6/18/09 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

Check out the numbers for Ascension from last year...in a parish that has only 90,000 people

106 Burglaries in just the Northwest Zone?!?!?! I thought it was safe


LINK

quote:

A recent state report projects the parish will grow to 109,030 people in 2010 and 196,140 by 2030.


quote:

106 Burglaries in just the Northwest Zone?!?!?! I thought it was safe...


Compare homicide and rape numbers. I consider it safer.


This post was edited on 6/18/09 at 1:27 pm
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38675 posts
Posted on 6/18/09 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

Must be nice to hide from the school system problem because it doesnt fit your argument. The majority of people would rather their kids go to a quality public school rather than pay a shite load of their income to send them to private schools because the public schools are horrible. Just because you want to send your potential kids to catholic schools does not mean thats what you should base your advice to the OP on. Fact is that BR has a bubble on its home values which will not last. Argue all you want the crime is going up in BR NOT down. Its simply not a wise investment to buy in BR and even worse to buy in BR and raise a family.


Agreed.

Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/18/09 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

Compare homicide and rape numbers. I consider it safer.


But earlier we were talking about burglaries...now since you realize your house can get broken into in Ascension Parish, you're worried about getting capped.

quote:

Agreed.


Keep on moving further and further out. Those housing prices in the far reaches of suburban cities are doing VERY well right now...

This post was edited on 6/18/09 at 1:30 pm
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 6/18/09 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

And you really have got to be kidding me to think that Garden District, Southdowns, etc etc will look like plank road in 15 years...


Show me where I said this.. You have a reading failure..

Never did I say BR will become Detroit.

Now add another 6-8K a year PER CHILD to the cost of that home since you will have to send your kids to private schools and hope you only have one kid..

Over the 30 year loan or lets be nice 15year.. That 149K home just cost you 90K OVER a home in a surrounding parish where your kids were not forced to go to a private school..

ETA: AND THATS IF YOU ONLY HAVE 1 KID!
This post was edited on 6/18/09 at 1:31 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101846 posts
Posted on 6/18/09 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

I see it becoming like New Orleans


quote:

Buying a house where I know value will decrease with high probability


You realize mansions on St. Charles Avenue are not the only places in New Orleans proper where this has not occurred, right?

Lots of folks are pretty well entrenched in lots of areas of the city, where they are doing just fine property value-wise.

Why is all of Baton Rouge proper a lost cause, in your estimation? It seems silly?
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 6/18/09 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

Why is all of Baton Rouge proper a lost cause, in your estimation? It seems silly?


Where in New Orleans can you get a quality public school education over St Tammany?
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