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re: Is buying a $24k car on $50k salary dumb?

Posted on 3/11/15 at 6:07 am to
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61451 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 6:07 am to
I agree with most here


I bought a 36k truck five years ago on a 60k salary and it didn't kill me, however I wouldn't buy a 5 year old vehicle that potentially costs a lot to maintain.


I wouldn't say its a completely boneheaded decision to buy the car, but it's not a smart one.

My thought has always been that I work hard and I'd like to enjoy some fruits of that labor.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170790 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 6:19 am to
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$24k seems reasonable to me for a vehicle. It would be a 5yo german car with 50k miles.


I'd advise against it

If you can find something in that price range that's more like 2-3 years old it might make more sense. But a 5 yr old German auto at that price sounds like a bad idea. What model is it?
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 6:45 am to
First thing that breaks you'll wish you'd bought a brand spanking new Accord/Camry/Sonata/Optima type vehicle.

For your salary, I could justify cars mentioned above since warranty will cover any issues while salary increases. Plus one of these will have a 0.9-1.9 financing over 4-5 years which is essentially free money factoring in inflation for most of the life of the loan. You'll get 100-150k miles with oil changes every 4-5k on any one of these vehicles.

Be smart
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 6:50 am
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170790 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 6:50 am to
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For your salary, I could justify this type purchase since warranty will cover any issues while salary increases.


I think best bet would be to find a CPO at about 2-3 years

That way you get the benefit of having most things covered and you don't take as big of a depreciation hit as a new

If he does go new, just make sure it's something that holds the value really well. The ones you listed probably do.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37826 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 7:36 am to
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that amount should be fine. Your note will be around $375 a month, which is not bad for your income at all.



If zero down and five year car he would be lucky to grab a 4% loan which puts him around 425 over 60
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
29855 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 8:04 am to
I can't answer this without knowing your other expenses.

Also, do what will make you happy. I wouldn't be happy about financing some Camry that I owned when I was 16 years old. After all the work I put in during school.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37826 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 8:21 am to
Fiance drives an 2011 IS250 and I drive a Sonata (formerly Cadillac CTS)

While the GF would never admit it, she is jealous of all the "standard" Sonata features as she asks to drive it all the time. One package level up got me standard rearview camera, touchscreen, onstar bluetooth and more + overall it is a great looking car.



I came from a family in which both parents drive german luxury cars, my first car was a few YO CTS and my sister drives a X3. I promise you that in my neighborhood, nobody judges the doctor next door who drives a Camry. I found out the only people who care about what type of car you drive are those who can't afford one and those that are insecure about their social status. My parents drove nice cars because they could afford luxury, not because they cared what the brand name was on the car.
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 8:22 am
Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
2333 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 8:37 am to
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Go buy a brand new Honda Civic


Fantastic idea
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
51337 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 8:38 am to
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I've read some websites that say don't spend more than 20% of your annual salary on a vehicle


I don't think this is reffering to the total cost of the vehicle, just the yearly portion of the financing.

That would reccomend that someone making 100k spend 20k on a new car

People are looking at this the wrong way IMO. You should be saving money FIRST then having income for everything else. As long as this isn't changing your savings plan(assuming you have one) then I think its fine.

Maybe he's a car guy and he rather take 75 out of his fun money every month and drive a nicer car.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37826 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 8:51 am to
Best advice I ever got was from my dad.
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Put your estimated car payment in a savings account for 3-6 months without affecting what you are saving. If you can do that and live the life you want, you'll have some money to put down and know you won't have a problem affording it.
Posted by AngryBeavers
Member since Jun 2012
4554 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 8:51 am to
My philosophy is get the cheapest most reliable car possible and pay cash. Drive that bitch into the ground. Last car I bought was an old used 05 Camry with 80K miles on it for 8 grand 1 owner. Currently at 150K miles and still running great.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
23946 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:04 am to
There is so much fail in this thread. Buying a car that is half the value of your annual salary is fricking dumb.

The thought of paying a car note, any car note, hurts the hell out of me. That said, I'll probably get one soon, but I'm going to buy a used car even though I can afford really nice one. The only way I can justify it is that I have driven a 1997 truck for the past 7 years.

Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
2333 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:10 am to
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Buying a car that is half the value of your annual salary is fricking dumb.


Why? It may be dumb to you but you cant just say that. Too many other factors go into it.
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
18860 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:14 am to
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Why? It may be dumb to you but you cant just say that. Too many other factors go into it.



Seriously if he has no kids, isn't hampered by a massive mortgage or debt, why the hell not? That still would leave him plenty of money to save, spend etc.

Builds credit and 24k isn't outrageous. Spread that out over 3-5 years on low interest, its not that crazy at all.
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13499 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:14 am to
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Its a 2010 Audi A5. The oil consumption issues are being fixed on this vehicle as we speak, but I havent made any agreement to buy yet.


So you're about to buy a car with known major issues? What could go wrong...
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:19 am to
Spend however much you want--that's not the issue. But you could buy a brand new VW Golf (motortrend car of the year for 2015) for less than you're planning to spend on the A5. Way too much money for a 5 year old car; with VW/Audi, you're not getting that much upgrade in materials, fit/finish when you step up to Audi, IMHO. I just bought a 2015 Golf TDI for less than what you plan to pay for used; 55 mpg highway, 40-45 in the city. Gonna drive that sucker into the ground; passed my 11 y-o Volvo down to my hubs, who will drive it at least another 2 years before he caves and buys a new car (prob another Volvo or an Audi q3 TDI w very low miles). We find that buying new or barely used represents best value for our household as we like to keep the same cars as long as possible.

I'd rather go to Europe every year than drive a luxury car. But we all make our own calibrated choices.
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
18860 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:22 am to
I would not buy.

Audi's suck oil and are expensive a hell to fix. Finding a legit mechanic for them is also even harder. I owned one.

If you are only making 50k man, check out the new Passats. You can get one with leather, navi etc for around 24k. I'm sure you could find a 2014/2015 around for even cheaper. And the new ones look legit. I love mine, its huge space wise and drives awesome.
Posted by chesty
Flap City C.C.
Member since Oct 2012
12731 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:29 am to
25k brand new on 50k isn't that bad at all
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21650 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:31 am to
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$24k seems reasonable to me for a vehicle. It would be a 5yo german car with 50k miles.



fricking dumb IMO. Why not buy a newer and less used Toyota that will be more reliable and cheaper?

Must you have the BMW?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108774 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:32 am to
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Lets say you do that and change cars every 5 years, beginning at age 25 - if you'd invested that $75 a month, instead of wasting it on a car note you absolutely could have avoided - at age 65, that's about $150k (assuming 6% yield on the invested money for 40 years).

Is $150k that big of a difference in your retirement package at age 65? Will that be the difference in being able to retire at 65 or working until 70 or beyond?

You tell me.

(And decisions like this compound - the same can be said for the guy who buys a Starbucks latte 4 times a week, etc. - about the same amount of money. If he was brewing his own coffee for a fraction of that, etc.)
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