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Posted on 8/2/19 at 11:22 am to
Posted by StealthCalais11
Lurker since 2007
Member since Aug 2011
12445 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 11:22 am to
What has been your strategy/success in finding off-market properties?
This post was edited on 8/2/19 at 11:38 am
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72360 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 2:30 pm to
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Well we haven't bought any more flip projects because it is so damn slow. Probably won't buy another in 2019.



smart move. you will be fine. you know what you are doing obviously.

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It's a 2-3 year deal that should work out pretty well in the long run. May get to take a pic like the one you posted. haha



niiiice. sounds good. see you are already adjusting.

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Hope all is well with you too man!


yeah, like i said previously in thread the apartment syndication is on the back burner for now. I'm staying patient lurking in the weeds ready to pounce like a tiger on a duplex or 4 plex once one comes up where i want at the price i want with good numbers. Probably keep doing HML until i am ready to do an acquisition.
This post was edited on 8/2/19 at 2:37 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72360 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 3:03 pm to
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What has been your strategy/success in finding off-market properties?





While i cannot disclose everything all i can say is you need to network, build leads, contacts, with lenders, insurance salesman, and especially with PM's nationwide. You'd be surprised how many of the above i listed will start contacting you or point you in the right direction. All of the above are working with RE investors and they have contacts also they can share with you especially if you do business with them. I have 4 ways(options) right this minute if I needed to sell any of my properties if needed.

I get offers weekly/monthly for my properties via mail and phone calls yet none are for sale. This happens with sharing information just like you networking.
This post was edited on 8/2/19 at 3:05 pm
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6168 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 6:19 pm to
Is a plan of acquiring 3-6 multi family properties (say 12-15 units) with the plan of getting them paid off then retiring from a 9-5 job and and strictly managing your properties a bad plan?

I see a lot posts about never paying off and continuing to grow. What about just growing to a point then sustaining?
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 7:06 pm to
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I see a lot posts about never paying off and continuing to grow. What about just growing to a point then sustaining?


Theoretically if you are leveraged properly there is no reason to stop. You only gain from the economy of scale...
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6168 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 7:25 pm to
Right, but again my goal would be to get set up with paid off rentals and strictly manage them while collecting income from there.

At some point there will be diminishing returns in terms of revenue and net worth with relation to free time.
This post was edited on 8/4/19 at 7:26 pm
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 7:49 pm to
Property manager
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6168 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 9:24 pm to
I’m asking if there is a downside to holding and sustaining?
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72360 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 9:57 pm to
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Right, but again my goal would be to get set up with paid off rentals and strictly manage them while collecting income from there.



as long as you want that and can handle that. it is your choice. if you are going to pay it off for more cash flow just make damn sure is is more then enough to sustain. not just bare minimum. many i know who do not pay off ever as i have explained before and some start to pay off properties to lessen exposure but only once they have cash flow annually = to acquisition prices to allow it.

for example you make 5 units a year off X amount of properties. the average cost of one of your properties is 15 units. so you keep building with leverage until you have hit 15 units a year in cash flow. Then annually you may or may not begin paying them off 1 at a time in full as long as you have other income to support you.

If you did this with paid off rentals and you handled the PM full time, yes i think that could work. Develop a good team. Completely up to you.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72360 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 7:27 pm to
i will be adding a couple funding options soon to the other links on first page.
Posted by Rsande63
Spring,TX
Member since Jan 2016
579 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 11:56 am to
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This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 3:02 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72360 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 10:53 am to
here are new links.

I will also add to front page

Lima One Capital

5 arch funding

Fund That Flip
This post was edited on 1/12/20 at 11:02 am
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75097 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:55 pm to
Fat Bastard, How hard is it to get a $100,000 loan for two down payments for two separate rental properties? We would like to stay within $150,000-$175,000 home and would like to put down 20-25%. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! TIA

SBA? Small business bank?
Posted by SalE
At the beach
Member since Jan 2020
2393 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 8:03 pm to
Forget all that BS..get in the real world..buy now guys..long term hold.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72360 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 8:34 pm to
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How hard is it to get a $100,000 loan for two down payments for two separate rental properties?


Just hit up banks and lenders. I normally do not borrow for down payments on my properties unless I am using my LOC for a certain strategy/situation.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75097 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:13 pm to
Thanks. So, you use LOC’s for down payments on properties you’re wanting to buy?
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72360 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:29 pm to
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So, you use LOC’s for down payments on properties you’re wanting to buy?




You can. Absolutely. Once the LOC is open you use it for what you want. Might be a better route for you depending on rates. Go to a few banks and apply for unsecured LOC and/or personal loans. Just remember if you used your own money then you keep the cash flow from rentals and use as you wish. If you use LOC you had best be prepared to funnel cash flow back to LOC to get it paid off since you used the banks money. Use the leverage but do not get over exposed with a mortgage note and paying back the DP from LOC for a long period of time. have a plan.

If you can get LOC paid down in a fast manner and do not need the cash flow from properties immediately then keep using the LOC to keep acquiring properties. wash. rinse. repeat.
Posted by NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
13497 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:50 pm to
I thought about getting a heloc to add to some cash I saved to get a larger amount of rentals now vs over time as I saved more.

I decided on doing a cash out refi for a down payment on a pack of 11 houses tho. With the rates like they are I’m able to drop from 4 to 3% and I can keep the cash I had saved. I can pull out the full 20% down payment.

With that saved cash I can put enough in a emergency account so I can take profits right away. The anual profit will go to a large chunk to pay off the commercial loan faster over time, some for the extra 300/month my primary mortgage is going up, some for the extra income tax, and the rest for other non essential things.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72360 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:14 pm to
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I decided on doing a cash out refi



Do whatever works best for you. SO many creative ways to do this. Sounds like you have a plan.
Posted by tigersfan1989
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2018
1265 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 2:13 pm to
What’s a good resource in determining how much rent you can get from a property you are looking to purchase? I don’t currently see any property in the surrounding area listed for rent but I’m confident there are properties that are being rented. Also can you tell me what kind of rent I should expect from a property based on its purchase price? For example if I a property that is 150k and annual expenses run 5k a year for insurance, trash pickup, grounds maintenance what kind of rent makes sense for this? What should my down payment be? 20%? What kind of maintenance figure should I assume? I have other questions but I’m just starting to look into buying a rental and am trying to learn the right way.
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