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Posted on 2/14/17 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 2:14 pm to
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Will close on duplex monday!


Nice!

Sorry I haven't gotten back to your email man. Been busy. Have another rental property under contract and starting another flip project this week. Can't keep track. My dad hasn't been busy at his "job" and has been running around buying properties left and right. Well, not really, but we have bought 2 in the last month and made two more offers.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10248 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 2:59 pm to
Not necessarily asking or responding to you StevenTiger, but to anyone.

I don't have very many vacancies, but I had a tenant move to california recently. Anyway, it's been a while, and I don't recall the general rule for gross/net income and percentage as it relates to whether someone can afford my property.

I've been using 3X net as a starting point, but am thinking 4X net and better is what I really need to look for. Am I way off on this?
Posted by Tiger at Law
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
2990 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 3:17 pm to
If you aren't sure, you should get it looked at by someone who knows what they are looking at. A lot of people have gutted and closed back up but finding problems coming back to haunt them.

Call United Fire and Water:
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Cassie Phillips Sibenaller
Executive Director of Business Development
3346 Drusilla Lane Ste F Baton Rouge, LA 70809
main: 225.755.7923
cell: 225.276.6388
email: cphillips@unitedfireandwater.com
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 10:59 am
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73784 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

starting another flip project this week.


ya'll are going to "flip out" soon with all these flips. Excellent working capital. wash, rinse, repeat.
Posted by lighter345
Member since Jan 2009
11869 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:04 pm to
Any success stories on here for the New Orleans area? I've been trying unsuccessfully to land a multi family the last three months.

Learned a lot but still no where close to finding anything that works after losing out on three deals that worked at my price but was outbid. Mainly looking at buy and hold rental property, which I'm sure 1000 other people with better info are as well.

Not giving up yet though.
Posted by darnol91
Member since Jun 2015
749 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:07 pm to
So im already in about six units for rentals. one duplex, one fourplex, just recently closed. I am more so interested in flipping, though. However, contractors honestly scare me away. I have no relationship with any (move a decent bit for work), and I know flippers usually get a better "deal" than someone just coming up for the first time.

So my question to the OP (and others) is: When you were beginning, how did you navigate contractors and get good estimates on pricing for what you wanted done? Do you do some of the work yourself? How did you go about deciding what to fix and what to leave?
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:22 pm to
Goal is to flip 3-4 this year and add at least 2 more rentals. Frankly, the flips have been so easy and good to us, that it just makes sense to keep going with them.
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:25 pm to
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However, contractors honestly scare me away


This is where developing your "team" comes into play. Find a realtor, banker, insurance guy and contractor. Once you have your team together, it really can help remove you from putting too much time in the process. Contractors can be tricky but once you have a good one, they can be very valuable.

Try finding a local REI group. Good way to network and possibly meet or hear about a good one. Just an idea.
Posted by geauxnc0308
pineywoods of ET
Member since May 2008
537 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:48 am to
quote:

Iowa Golfer


quote:

general rule for gross/net income


My rule is that rent must be <25% of gross or I don't even bother looking further at their app
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10248 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 3:43 pm to
Thanks.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73784 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

Frankly, the flips have been so easy and good to us, that it just makes sense to keep going with them.




remember what I told you. Stick with what works best for you right now! You are doing that. I am too busy for flips now but maybe down the line. I am just funding my buy and holds now. Eventually it SHOULD give me more time for other endeavors.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73784 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

Sorry I haven't gotten back to your email man. Been busy.


no problem. read it when you get time. I sent you another email and a opportunity to check out as well.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73784 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 2:10 pm to
both units leased already!
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 2:26 pm to
Damn son! We are starting work on the rental project we just closed on tomorrow. 2 days worth of small work and should be on the market by Friday and will be starting on the next flip on Monday.

Interesting deal came up today. 100 unit apartment complex about to be built and was asked if we wanted 25% of the deal. LOTS of diligence to do but could be a VERY good prospect. Partner going to look at 2 others ones that have been done by the same guy.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73784 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:52 am to
quote:

2 days worth of small work and should be on the market by Friday and will be starting on the next flip on Monday.



you need to slow down. At this rate you will be retired in no time.

quote:

100 unit apartment complex about to be built and was asked if we wanted 25% of the deal. LOTS of diligence to do but could be a VERY good prospect. Partner going to look at 2 others ones that have been done by the same guy.


like that email i sent you. I may be looking at those soon also but I am not risking everything else for it as I laid out to you. Find out all the info and if any other partners are needed present me with the info.

ETA: i just sent you another opportunity if interested.
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 10:39 am
Posted by AUGDawg
Montana
Member since Nov 2014
1912 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 11:16 am to



marked for later

I'm looking at purchasing another in the 3rd or 4th quarter of '17
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5538 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:11 am to
Steve, sent you an email to yahoo this morning.
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:25 am to
quote:

sent you an email to yahoo this morning


Reply sent.

Hope all my REI guys are doing well! We are working on our fourth flip currently and have a tenant in our fifth rental. 2 other offers floating out right now and fingers crossed on them.
Posted by atom1505
Member since Aug 2016
284 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:16 am to
So I'm looking at a potential first deal on a SFR buy and hold and these are the numbers:

It's a 3/2 in a well-rented area listed for $109,900, which is about $67.40/sqft. I ran some comps this morning and the most favorable comps around run at about $61/sqft, which would put me at $99,430. I'd probably offer like $97,000 and hope for $100k.

With $5000 down (including like 2% for closing costs), I'd be sitting at $94,430 loan balance at hypothetically 4.75% in a residential loan. So:

Monthly payments (P $ I): $492.59

Insurance: ~$180.00
PMI: ~$56
Monthly maintenance + Vacancy fund: $100.00
Taxes: $115
Property Manager: $120.00 (10%)

Total Expenses: $1080.59

It rented last in 2015 for $1350.00, and the lease comps support this. So assuming I could rent for $1350, it would cash flow at about $270/mo, giving me a 65% ROI.

What do you guys think? It seems like it would be a good deal if I could get it. Two things, though. It needs a fridge, and updated stainless appliances would help. I could do that for less than $2000, and may could use that for leverage for a lower selling price.

Secondly, I'm green on financing. Could someone explain to me whether/why I'd be better off doing a conventional mortgage like above, or a line of credit? I'd like to avoid PMI if at all possible. I'm just ignorant on the various ways to finance.

Thanks.
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:21 am to
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