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re: How is your 401k doing?

Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:58 pm to
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:58 pm to
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The market is UP since biden took office. If your account is DOWN in that time frame, you underperformed.


What market?

Honest question
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
17404 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 5:06 pm to
I’m up 4.5% YTD. A couple years ago I had 10k to 20k more than what I have now and that’s after having 55 to 60k more put in by me and my employer.
This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 5:07 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
38592 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 5:14 pm to
VTSAX
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
2688 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 5:18 pm to
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The person responsible for your 401 is you, genius. Pay attention, make adjustments when necessary and it won't matter what temporarily occupies the White House.


The OP prolly doesn’t have a 401k or an investment account. People that base their financial decisions on political narratives rarely make good financial decisions in my experience. Heard people saying the same crap when Obama was president.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 5:33 pm to
97.93 on 1/21/21 up to 98.95 closing bell 4/4/23.

Are you serious, Clark?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
38592 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 5:40 pm to
Would you prefer SPY?

That’s up about 5% since inauguration.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 6:24 pm to
quote:

Would you prefer SPY? That’s up about 5% since inauguration.


5% since inauguration?

What is that with inflation adjustments?

I don’t have a dog in the fight. But it is obvious when narratives are being pushed without any attempt to maintain a sense of integrity to the information.

People fling more shite than a manure spreader.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
89771 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 7:14 pm to
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meansonny


You’ve been wrong twice and now you’re going with emotion? Damn.

The market is up since Biden took office. It’s not a brag, it’s a fact.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 7:17 pm to
Lol

Wrong twice?

The first index he picked was up 1% over the course of 2 years during the midst of inflation that we haven’t seen in 4 decades.

As I said, I don’t have a dog in the fight. But don’t piss on me and tell me it is raining.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
89771 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 7:54 pm to
quote:

The first index he picked was up 1% over the course of 2 years during the midst of inflation that we haven’t seen in 4 decades.


Up is up. Arguing it’s not up in real terms is goofy. Everything he said was factual. You just assumed there were no markers that were higher and you’ve been proven wrong twice.
This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 7:56 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
36973 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:47 pm to
quote:

I don’t have a dog in the fight.
Yes you do.

quote:

But it is obvious when narratives are being pushed without any attempt to maintain a sense of integrity to the information.

Like the narrative of this thread that Biden has somehow "tanked the markets"?
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 10:53 pm to
quote:

The market is UP since biden took office. If your account is DOWN in that time frame, you underperformed.


His account was up 0.5% per year and the insinuation was that if our accounts are not up then it is a me problem.

That’s the definition of mendacity.

The markets are beyond the control of any president. But there is too much pissing on our heads and calling it rain in this thread for me. I don’t need a semantics debate.
Posted by GCTigahs
Member since Oct 2014
2289 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 11:02 pm to
Just checked my balance. I have 2k less than I did on July 1, 2021 and I contributed the max in both yrs since then.

The wife and I have tracked our balances on July 1 and Jan 1 since 2008. The last couple years, I haven't looked at it very often,,,too depressing.
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4863 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 9:03 am to
I am treading water. I cashed 40% out between July and nov of 2021. Been sitting in cash waiting till deflation happens and going to buy back in.

Taken a few dips in with xom and Tesla during that time.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
2276 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 10:56 am to
I agree with you. I haven't been reading this board very long, and may not much longer. You are correct, but most of the comments in this thread are wrong. My 401k is higher.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
2276 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 11:05 am to
Not according to your graph.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
23244 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 11:14 am to
quote:

Up is up.


Not back in September of 2022

Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
23244 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 11:21 am to
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People that think presidents can take any credit for the economy are idiots. So many other factors. Biden is a moron, don't get me wrong, but so much other stuff goes into it.


quote:

So many other factors.


Yup people's emotions to what D.C. is doing

Politics has gotten so involved in private business, it is becoming hard to be immune.
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3744 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

Not according to your graph.
Okay, and May 2022. Not sure what your point is.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
28972 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 1:28 pm to
Sometimes it's up, sometimes it's down. Right now I'm up a little from beginning of 2022. Wouldn't be shocked to see a few years of stagnant markets. Wish I had more options in my retirement plan, but it does keep me from getting stupid.
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