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re: How did you buy your first RE

Posted on 5/6/17 at 6:30 pm to
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 5/6/17 at 6:30 pm to
Good healthcare in Canada? Lol. How long do you plan on being there? You realize anything major can take weeks or months to see a specialist right? I don't have a clue how it works for ex pats but I gotta believe if they have time issues and you aren't a local it won't be easy.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14970 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 8:13 pm to
I think I've seen one or maybe two people in this thread actually answer OP's thread.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24185 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 8:52 pm to
That's message boards for you.

OP what is a REP? I own 5 properties and I don't know what you mean? I could honestly be ignorant but?

I would not be thinking about rental properties until you are in a great financial situation. One of the best ways to start in real estate investment is to buy a fixer upper to live in that's far under your 'max' property to buy, fix it up, and then rent or sell it in 1-3 years to move up houses.

Real estate is high risk/ medium reward at best unless you are a land developer. It's not to mess around with unless you can take a major loss as in the entire loan/ worth of the property you bought.

For every guy that gets rich off real estate by age 30 there are probably literally 100 around that wish they never invested in real estate. I can't tell you the amount of people I talk to that tell me they wish they'd never got into their real estate. My point is simply to treat lightly.
This post was edited on 5/6/17 at 8:54 pm
Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
1638 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 9:29 pm to
It's why buying right is so important. Most people will likely only make a few large RE purchases in their life. You need to make it as sure a thing as possible early on. Build in leeway and take your time.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
90944 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 9:59 pm to
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Good healthcare in Canada?


yup. It all depends on the province and where in that province you are.I will be fine where i will be located. I have already researched it extensively. I can always come back to the USA for care if needed.

I might be getting dual citizenship anyway but that is only after some serious permanent residency prerequisites (have to be there 183 days out the year, 3 of the last 4 years before applying for citizenship). Or i can just be a permanent resident(easier route) and skip dual citizenship(harder route) and still get public healthcare. Would have to spend roughly half the year there every year for the public healthcare maybe a little less. i may be there that much in retirement anyway. I can get care no problem where i will be even if not a dual citizen or permanent resident with a private plan. There will always be pros and cons. But this is not some 3rd world country we are talking about. My friend who lives there does not pay much more taxes than me and his healthcare is covered other than some miscellaneous small expenses. HE is actually getting more out his tax dollars than I am. we have done comparisons. Then add what I am paying for Obamacare and it is a complete joke when comparing healthcare costs between us. I am getting ripped off.

debunking canadian healthcare myths

5 reasons to retire in canada

This post was edited on 5/6/17 at 10:13 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/6/17 at 10:01 pm to
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That's message boards for you.



irony from the cat who asked me about healthcare. talk about a thread hijack.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
90944 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 10:03 pm to
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I think I've seen one or maybe two people in this thread actually answer OP's thread.




I bought my first property with $$$$$$$$, that is how.

happy now G man?

had to give you a dabigfella type response on that.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 8:29 am to
I was 27, did a 80/10/10 piggyback in 2003 on 168k custom built house in Nashville TN.


The good ole days
Posted by Oenophile Brah
The Edge of Sanity
Member since Jan 2013
7569 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 11:04 am to
I started out in real estate by buying a double. I wanted to lower my initial living costs while setting myself up for longer term cash flow. After 3+ years living in one side I'm finally moving on to my next property. This will be my first time renting out both sides and I'm excited to experience the full benefit of the property.

I think starting with a multi unit property was the best choice for me. It has been a great learning experience and am now ready to grow my portfolio.

Best of luck!
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:56 pm to
Good post.

The people that I've known over the years, who have made it in real estate, did what you're doing. If you do your home work, don't overextend or overleverage yourself, treat it like a business (instead of a self-driving car) and manage the property and tenants, real estate rental investing isn't rocket science or a minefield. Of the millionaires that I know, the overwhelming majority (who didn't inherit the money) have made most of their fortunes from real estate. I mean, let's be honest... where else can you get that sort of leverage and insider trading (having material non public information) is perfectly legal? The first real estate attorney that sort of took me under his wing told me that he'd make sure that I was on the right side of the law by an inch... but ethics were something that I'd have to work out for myself. But you don't have to do crazy deals to make damn good money in real estate. Just TREAT IT LIKE A BUSINESS.

The people I know who have gone bust have been spec builders, undercapitalized developers and amateur house flippers. I consider that speculation. I'm not a speculator or a gambler.

Start small and slow. Read everything that you can read on the subject. Go to seminars or join a real estate investing club. Whatever form of learning that works for you, take advantage of it. But have a plan going in... and you won't have to cobble together a plan to get out. It's like most businesses (or diets): the people who fail like to blame outside factors, when usually it's that figure in the mirror who brought the pain and anguish.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
12614 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 1:28 pm to
Good post Jag.

My first was a spur of the moment on-site house auction. My Dad and I went in halves. I had less risk and felt more secure. I made a few bucks after renting it for a few years, then sold it.

I have bought dozens of houses. Many have been flips, others long-term rentals.

My advice is to buy decent properties and make good tenant selections.




Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
90944 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 8:27 pm to
quote:

Start small and slow. Read everything that you can read on the subject. Go to seminars or join a real estate investing club. Whatever form of learning that works for you, take advantage of it. But have a plan going in..


Posted by bobaftt1212
Hills of TN
Member since Mar 2013
1394 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:37 pm to
we purchased our first home and kept it as a rental. It has been a lackluster performer as far as rentals go but it got my feet wet in rental property and taught me some lessons while still cashflowing.
Posted by RickySauwce
BR
Member since Dec 2011
740 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:57 pm to
I haven't really looked around to hard but it just seems to me that the real estate market is too high at the moment. Well at least in BR? Would yall agree?
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 7:20 pm to
I can't speak to that. I've only been to Louisiana twice in my life. But remember, you're not buying the market. Whether the market is high or low, you're looking for "the deal". When I bought my first rental property, I got a 30 year fixed quoted at 11%. When rates came down to 10.5% while I was floating, I thought that I had conquered the world. People now will say that you can't make money with rates at X%. To which I'd say bull. The only way to time any market is to be extremely lucky or extremely blessed - I am neither.

Whatever you buy, however you finance it, you have to have a plan that has contingencies. If you're going to keep this property for 10-15 years, as long as you've put together a solid management plan, who cares if the market dips between year 5-7 (or whatever)? Does that make sense?

But best of luck, whichever path you choose.
This post was edited on 5/9/17 at 7:23 pm
Posted by ThatsAFactJack
East Coast
Member since Sep 2012
1609 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 1:44 pm to
Looking at my first rental property.

Cash $50000
Yearly Ins 1000
Prop Tax 400
Long term tenants already in place $725/month

Thoughts?
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 8:08 pm to
I'm confused. Is the "Cash $50,000" how much you want to spend or the price... or something else?
Posted by ThatsAFactJack
East Coast
Member since Sep 2012
1609 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:07 am to
quote:

Jag_Warrior

quote:

I'm confused. Is the "Cash $50,000" how much you want to spend or the price... or something else?


Paying cash for the property. No mortgage. $50,000
Posted by HYDRebs
Houston
Member since Sep 2014
1585 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 11:00 am to
So a ~ a 14% yearly return on the $50,000 before taxes. Unless you see major short term renovations needed, Yeah it's a great deal. Seems like a good deal particularly if you have the tenants already set up for the $725 amount long term.
Posted by ThatsAFactJack
East Coast
Member since Sep 2012
1609 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 11:04 am to
quote:

HYDRebs

quote:

. Unless you see major short term renovations needed, Yeah it's a great deal. Seems like a good deal particularly if you have the tenants already set up for the $725 amount long term.


I have requested the lease paperwork to see how long the tenants are locked in for. The entire house had new siding 2 years ago. New roof in 2009. The only issue is the AC is 12 years old but that could last another 12 years or break tomorrow.

The tenents are an older couple and have been there since 2009. So I think going rate on rent would be closer to $850 but the owner has kept the rent down because of the value of the tenants.
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