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re: How confident are you that Trump and his team know what they are doing with tariffs?

Posted on 5/2/25 at 10:03 pm to
Posted by blades8088
Covington
Member since Nov 2008
4249 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 10:03 pm to
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Was also wondering how their nest eggs look tonight vs April 2nd?


If your nest egg changes in a month, you’re doing it wrong.

As for the Ts, I really dont understand the panic. When one send you 3X more than you send them, you make the rules. And if you done, they will suffer much greater than you will. Either way you win.
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
11789 posts
Posted on 5/3/25 at 1:41 pm to
Insert 0.0 GIF
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
130894 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 5:43 am to
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It was almost equally as unlikely as it was likely that he would ever be reelected.
Not true at all. Covid changed things.

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Did he think to himself, "I've been itching to roll out all of these tariffs and renegotiate these trade deals since the 80's, but I'll probably just save it for my 2nd term even though I think it's critically important." ?
It's a reasonable question.

In 2017, Trump was a different person in terms of WashDC experience. The result was his momentum was stunted right off the bat. He was hamstrung with Russiagate. He chose advisors based on recommendations, rather than loyalty and personal experience. That turned out to be a mistake as many of those with their own ambitions, turned on him creating chaos.

Bottomline: Though he brought tariffs against China, renegotiated trade pacts, etc., Trump lacked political capital to pull off a 2025 paradigm-shifting approach.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:50 am to
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How confident are you that Trump and his team know what they are doing with tariffs?
im as confident that they understand the complexities with it as much or more than anyone else that says they can forecast it all.

I’m 100% sure that the US has long been getting the shite end of the stick and needed to secure some more favorable deals.


Do they know exactly how chips will fall? No.
Does anyone? No.
Am I happy on the direction? Yes
Posted by Penn
Jax Beach
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:55 am to
Same
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
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Posted on 5/6/25 at 10:39 am to
If not for the invention of mass hysteria through MSM, the market would have barely moved with these happenings.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
8770 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 12:09 pm to
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In 2017, Trump was a different person in terms of WashDC experience. The result was his momentum was stunted right off the bat. He was hamstrung with Russiagate. He chose advisors based on recommendations, rather than loyalty and personal experience. That turned out to be a mistake as many of those with their own ambitions, turned on him creating chaos.


Has it crossed your mind that he was reelected precisely because he had sane people around him who kept his worst impulses in check during his first term?
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37499 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 12:12 pm to
Now he just has a bunch of yes men and women praising Dear Leader.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
130894 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 1:10 pm to
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Has it crossed your mind that he was reelected precisely because he had sane people around him who kept his worst impulses in check during his first term?
Like Fauci, Milley, Tillerson, Pompeo, Sessions, Wray, etc? No TBH it hasn't. But that's more a discussion for the poli-board.

They were all his appointments, albeit based on 'strong' recommendations, including Fauci to play lead in covid. So ITR the buck stops with Trump.

For this board though, a discussion of Powell's (another iof Trump's appts) new found view that tariffs are "inflationary" would be worth having.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
8770 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 2:51 pm to
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Milley, Tillerson, Pompeo, Wray


Wow. We definitely aren't going to agree.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
13523 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 2:53 pm to
I don’t think trump knows with certainty that China will relent.

While he can’t control China, he can control how he perceives the outcome and
I know that no matter what happens, trump will claim success.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
130894 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 3:06 pm to
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We definitely aren't going to agree.
e.g., Milley may well be the worst CJC in US history. Trump appointed him. It is what it is.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37499 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 3:22 pm to
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trump will claim success


This is a given and his followers will slurp it up.
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
5906 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 3:37 pm to
The guy has the attention span of a gnat
He's on China then he's blaming the French for Continental drift
He's too ADD for the complex issues
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
130894 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 4:02 pm to
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The guy has the attention span of a gnat
I take it we'll be on opposite sides of trades in the coming months.

Do you side with Trump or Powell on the FOMC rates game?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29894 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:12 pm to
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If not for the invention of mass hysteria through MSM, the market would have barely moved with these happenings.

Utter nonsense. The MSM isn't what kept slow boats from leaving Europe and Asia because they had no idea what they would have to pay to get their product offloaded at port in 2-4 weeks.

As I've said many times before, while I personally disagree with it, there's nothing inherently wrong with Trump aggressively going after trade deals. His frick up was the first 30 days or so of how he handled it. Fortunately, he pulled his head out of his arse, and it looks like things are progressing reasonably well.

But the market crash is 100% due to Trump's buffoonery during the first month or so of this endeavor.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
87092 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:55 pm to
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If not for the invention of mass hysteria through MSM, the market would have barely moved with these happenings.


Stock market almost at 41k. The Panicans really are the worst

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“While in Switzerland, Secretary Bessent will also meet with the lead representative on economic matters from the People’s Republic of China (PRC).”
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