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re: How bad was your escrow account short this year?

Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:52 am to
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
10183 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:52 am to
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How much is your house worth?

Worth a lot less than it would cost to rebuild after a total loss. Maybe $285k on paper? Only thing that could take it out completely is a tornado or fire. I’m willing to play the odds on a tornado and just keep fire insurance.
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14641 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:57 am to
Recommend checking your HO insurance. Mine doubled over the last 2 years with no claims. I shopped it myself and found new coverage for half of what they quoted me this year (so back down to what I was paying 2 years ago). I saved over $3k in about 10 minutes of work.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
15174 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:15 am to
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Homeowners cheer values going up,

I get what your saying .What does it matter if my property value goes up if i dont plan on selling ? That 2.25 loan pretty much locked that in. City basically has a blank check just to say hey your house went up this year you owe us another few thousand. Hey we need a raise looks like your house value went up again. It's BS especially with all the New houses built in this area in the last few years with them now paying taxes as well.
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 9:19 am
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51451 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:30 am to
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I get what your saying .What does it matter if my property value goes up if i dont plan on selling ? That 2.25 loan pretty much locked that in. City basically has a blank check just to say hey your house went up this year you owe us another few thousand. Hey we need a raise looks like your house value went up again. It's BS especially with all the New houses built in this area in the last few years with them now paying taxes as well.

We've decided that we're staying where we are for the foreseeable future, but we had talked about downsizing once all of the kids are gone, but it would mean an increase in costs for us.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77228 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:33 am to
All those years you actively talked about moving out of LA. What changed your mind if you don’t mind me asking?
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
81971 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:33 am to
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It's your job (or a lawyer you hire) to dispute your valuation, every, single, F'ing year.


yup. i did this with all my rental properties.
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
5796 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:35 am to
I'm currently building and I just got a 16k check in the mail for overpaying
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
23122 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:48 am to
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I choose not to escrow. I pay my property taxes and insurance annually.


That is my recommendation to anyone where it is not required by your mortgage company. Keep that money invested, instead of loaning it to a 3rd party.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51451 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 11:18 am to
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All those years you actively talked about moving out of LA. What changed your mind if you don’t mind me asking?

My wife doesn't want to move anytime soon with the kids here and I don't want to get a divorce
Posted by CharlieTiger
ATL
Member since Jun 2014
919 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 12:04 pm to
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quote:
I choose not to escrow. I pay my property taxes and insurance annually.


That is my recommendation to anyone where it is not required by your mortgage company


I've fought it but they won't let me get out of it. We refinanced in 2021 to 3.25 and I guess the loan was still large enough where they said it had to be escrowed.

Our property taxes have gone up year over year for the last few years, but not significantly. They usually send us the notice in June for the escrow adjustment in July, but they adjusted it in March of this year out of nowhere. It's up over $500/month because they're assuming our property tax will hit a certain level. Our city doesn't send property taxes for the year until April 1st and the increase over the last few years doesn't come close to justifying this increase. We're in a unique area where we pay pretty much all property taxes to our city and not our county. The county makes the home value assessment and the city uses that to calculate the property taxes. We have our own, very good school system, which a significant portion of our taxes go to.

I fought it over the phone with them for probably an hour and just gave up. They said they'll re-asses in June when they normally do and will credit back anything that's over what the account needs. That's fine, but needless to say, I'm not happy about this and am looking at any way to get out of escrow, but not sure they'll let me.
Posted by TIGERSby10
Central Lafourche
Member since Nov 2005
7329 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 12:26 pm to
I went up about $400 per month (over the last 5 years) and I've been bitching, but after reading some of these posts, maybe I should be happy.
Posted by Deek
Member since Sep 2013
1074 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 2:12 pm to
I got a check for $11. Shocked
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18012 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 2:59 pm to
Mine was set to go up 300+ more on monthly note this year due to shortage… nothing changed that much but new company requires 2 month escrow cushion.

got them to take taxes off my escrow which brought it back down about 300$ and next year going to try to take off insurance and cancel escrow all together
Posted by IcedOutBart
Houston
Member since Jul 2017
190 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 3:06 pm to
So what is removing wind/hail going to save you? 1k a year ?
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
81971 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 3:09 pm to
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Keep that money invested,


yup and I do the same when i sell properties. all proceeds into investments so i can make money on the money i will use for taxes months later. really helps reduce the tax amount pulled from original principal.
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
14252 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 3:12 pm to
Why in the world someone would escrow us beyond me. It makes ZERO sense.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
10183 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 6:54 pm to
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So what is removing wind/hail going to save you? 1k a year ?

Around $4k
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24209 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 6:13 am to
Had this happen last year, Hanover premium was scheduled to go up about 68% so we had that and then it created an escrow shortfall so our monthly was gonna go up like $500 a month. fricking retarded, we’ve been in the house 2 years and never made a claim or anything. Obviously paying for other people’s losses
Posted by trident
Member since Jul 2007
4814 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 6:36 am to
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Why in the world someone would escrow us beyond me. It makes ZERO sense.


Usually its required!
Posted by Pvt Hudson
Member since Jan 2013
4260 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 8:53 am to
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Usually its required!


It is only required if you have PMI, and FHA or VA loan. Flood insurance must be escrowed if you are in a flood zone.

Most lenders charge to “waive” escrow. It is a riskier loan and less profitable to them to let you handle it yourself.

Escrow fluctuations aren’t your lender’s fault. Failure to monitor the taxes and homeowners insurance policy amount is on the homeowner.
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