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re: Housing: WTF?
Posted on 3/17/23 at 2:10 pm to boogiewoogie1978
Posted on 3/17/23 at 2:10 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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People are buying and trying to flip for a profit. It's a game of chicken right now.
Those people are going to be left holding the bag and folks will get some deals on homes
Posted on 3/17/23 at 2:55 pm to SaintsTiger
quote:In a lot of these scenarios, the financing is so extremely in the money, that the owner can probably afford to just keep it as a rental and at least cover his PITI.
At first you think it doesn’t matter because you got a low interest rate.
But what if you have to sell - divorce, job loss, higher paying job offer in another state, health issue, etc.
quote:You wouldn't say NBD - it's just not a crash.
You’d have to sell at a $100,000 lose. Would you say nbd because it’s only 10%?
quote:Breaking even is sunk cost thinking, so it doesn't mean much to me.
You could be waiting a long time just to get back to break even. Even longer factoring in transaction fees.
Posted on 3/17/23 at 3:00 pm to SaintsTiger
quote:I just checked my friend's house on Redfin that he bought in Austin in June 2021 - and their estimate is 10% higher than what he paid.
Redfin
The chart in there looks like a year over year decline is coming soon.
We’ll see what happens in the Spring selling season. I’ll go out on a limb and say prices will drop at a faster pace than they already are.
NVM - that's fricking Austin, Arkansas, you fricking idiot!
Posted on 3/17/23 at 3:37 pm to SaintsTiger
quote:link?
The biggest builder there Lenar is going bankrupt.
Posted on 3/17/23 at 3:38 pm to Bard
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Who the hell is building right now?
the people who cant wait any longer and were waiting for lumber to go back down to normal pre-covid prices.
interest rates suck now, but building cost are much cheaper now
Posted on 3/17/23 at 3:40 pm to SaintsTiger
quote:Being down 1 instead of 20 made you point stronger?
It was the wrong Austin. Initially. The correct data -over 1% year over year price declines- made my point even stronger.
Posted on 3/17/23 at 3:41 pm to Bard
quote:But that's also excluding the potential mortgage interest deduction - which they might actually qualify for with rates up here.
They are taking home ~$10,739 (not including any state taxes, retirement, insurance, etc).
Posted on 3/17/23 at 3:43 pm to TJG210
quote:I'm guessing you are right about this. But ALSO, median transaction stats aren't great either, because they aren't tracking buys and sales of the same properties, so it's highly dependent on the product mix being transacted on. In the edge case, it's entirely possible to have median prices down in a raging housing market.
In most areas Zillow’s estimates aren’t worth dick, as a real estate agent I shudder when I hear, “but Zillow said”. Unless you live in a completely homogenous area, those things are often grossly wrong.
Posted on 3/17/23 at 3:45 pm to boogiewoogie1978
quote:We need way more context to know if that stat is meaningful or not. How many months of inventory are on the market? I'm guessing it's less than what would normally constitute a buyer's market.
In my area there are 6x as many homes up for sale compared to a year ago.
Posted on 3/17/23 at 4:21 pm to Big Scrub TX
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But that's also excluding the potential mortgage interest deduction - which they might actually qualify for with rates up here.
His entire post was hilariously wrong and failed at basic math.
Posted on 3/17/23 at 6:01 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:Yeah, I see that now. I thought this board was populated by people who knew things and/or had at least some expertise. I see now it's basically a mini-Poli Board.
His entire post was hilariously wrong and failed at basic math.
Posted on 3/17/23 at 7:13 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
Being down 1 instead of 20 made you point stronger?
The 20 % was month over month. So down from a high but still up year over year.
The +1% is year over year which is a big deal.
Your criticism betrays your ignorance.
Posted on 3/17/23 at 7:16 pm to Big Scrub TX
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I just checked my friend's house on Redfin that he bought in Austin in June 2021 - and their estimate is 10% higher than what he paid.
But you do you. Pour your money into real estate because it only ever goes up. That works under the greater fool theory until it doesn't. You may find one more sucker. Good luck.
Posted on 3/17/23 at 7:55 pm to SaintsTiger
quote:Down 1% YoY is a "big deal"? CRASHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
The +1% is year over year which is a big deal.
Posted on 3/17/23 at 7:57 pm to SaintsTiger
quote:Never said it could. But if prices were materially lower, it should be reflected at least directionally. It isn't.
Redfin's estiamte can't be used to buy his house though.
quote:And I guess you'll do you by making up random shite and assigning it to other people when your blowhard nonsense is called out.
But you do you. Pour your money into real estate because it only ever goes up.
Only 2 claims have been made that I'm aware of:
1)There is a legitimate shortage of both rental and owned housing in the US
2)There has not been a real estate crash 2a)There probably won't be one
Those relatively benign assertions appear to break your brain.
Posted on 3/17/23 at 8:30 pm to Big Scrub TX
I’ve quoted sources with hard data . You’ve made argued by insult and your opinion. I’ll go out on a limb and say you’re the one with that’s a little slow witted.
Truck nuts won’t make you a fortune in real estate. Good luck.
By the way rental prices are dropping. video breaking down some of the data
Truck nuts won’t make you a fortune in real estate. Good luck.
By the way rental prices are dropping. video breaking down some of the data
Posted on 3/17/23 at 8:44 pm to SaintsTiger
I think it's safe to say you've never owned an investment property
Posted on 3/17/23 at 8:51 pm to SaintsTiger
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By the way rental prices are dropping. video breaking down some of the data
quote:
The Rental Market MELTDOWN That Will Change Housing Forever
Houston, San Antonio, Austin and Dallas Texas.
Email my team and I for any questions and let us know how we can help!
TravisAndGrace.etr@gmail.com
lmao
Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:09 pm to SaintsTiger
quote:Showing...what, exactly?
I’ve quoted sources with hard data
quote:You started the insults.
You’ve made argued by insult and your opinion
quote:OK. Who here ever said prices couldn't go down?
By the way rental prices are dropping. video breaking down some of the data
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