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re: Houses in Garden District, Southdown neighborhood in BR

Posted on 8/11/15 at 7:36 pm to
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 7:36 pm to
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Inexplicably overpriced. Never understood why that area goes for over $190 per sq ft. BR is so expensive compared to cities with a population under (250,000 city proper).


Because it's highly desirable?

10 minutes or less to Downtown, LSU, and Essen/Jefferson. Have three good Catholic Elementary schools within 5 minutes and 3 premier HS's right by as well.

Add in the historic charm, accessibility to dining/entertainment and it all makes sense.

BR proper is a poor designation of its size as well since the region has over 800k.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65138 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 8:12 pm to
I live in capital heights and there are some ridiculously nice houses in here. Hell the small-ish old 2BR condo I'm in is $925 a month.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77748 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 8:36 pm to
The nine parish region is 800k, not the city of BR. EBR parish is about 450k. Look at comparable cities with way more amenities and much better schools and tell me what the price per sq ft is. I am NOT a BR hater, I'm simply saying its preposterously priced for a city its size.
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8675 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 8:39 pm to
It's only that expensive because there are so few really nice parts of town.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 8:41 pm to
I understand that BR proper isn't 800k. Just pointing out the metro population is indicative of a mid-size metro and prices in the center of it will command higher prices.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14970 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 6:27 am to
Built brand new for $117/sf in 2013 out here in God's Country in beautiful metro Walker, La.

Half a mile away from elementary, junior high and high schools in the Livingston Parish Public School System, Less than 2.5 miles from two separate I-12 Interchanges, 1/4 mile from SLU Satellite Campus with plans for fairly large Community College on the same piece of property, and the only free standing Emergency Room (including one with a pediatric emphasis) in the entire State.

Concrete floors, Cypress Cabinets, Crown Molding, Cat 6 pulled through the walls.

Cannot. Beat. It.

Been commuting to LSU and downtown for work for almost 18 years (half my life). Trust me folks, your worry or lamentations about the commute are way overblown.

This post was edited on 8/12/15 at 6:29 am
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 7:36 am to
Cool. And I prefer to live in the city and like being 7 minutes door to door from my office. To each his own, though.

And my kids will go to Catholic Schools so I prefer the convenience. At some point we may move to a more rural area but there's no benefit for us at this point to do so.
This post was edited on 8/12/15 at 7:41 am
Posted by brodeo
Member since Feb 2013
1850 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 7:51 am to
quote:

Inexplicably overpriced. Never understood why that area goes for over $190 per sq ft.


Several reasons:
1. Convenience. That neighborhood is close to a ton of activities that young couples and professionals want. It's close to downtown, LSU, the restaurants in Mid City, Citi Place, Perkins Overpass, Town Center, ect while still being a "quiet" neighborhood with low crime and relatively little traffic headache for moving around the city.
2. Low crime
3. Walkability. One can walk from the Garden District to LSU, the Lakes, many stellar private schools, and the Perkins Overpass area. There's also lots of sidewalks.
4. Shade. There are tons of beautiful old oaks leaving lots of natural shade. New developments are severely lacking in this department.
5. Not every house looks the same. There is more than enough variation in floor plans, size, and style that every house is distinct from one-another.
Posted by brodeo
Member since Feb 2013
1850 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 8:07 am to
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Been commuting to LSU and downtown for work for almost 18 years (half my life). Trust me folks, your worry or lamentations about the commute are way overblown.


How long does it take on average? My commute is 10 minutes in the morning and 20 minutes in the afternoon, and I have to cross the Mississippi River! My coworkers who live out near you take 1-1.5 hours EACH WAY! Just think about how much extra time that is away from your family! From my house, it's not even 5 minutes to LSU, I can bike it in 15 minutes and be in front of Tiger Stadium if I want).

Just think about how many hours aggregated over a year or even a career that saves me. In one year, a 20 minute round-trip commute compared to a 2.5 hour round-trip commute would save 130 minutes/day, 10.83 hours/week, 541.67 hours/year (22.5 days/year), 9750 hours over 18 years. That's an additional 406.25 DAYS behind the wheel, away from your family. That is an entire year of your LIFE wasted in your car on the way to and from work.

You get what you pay for.
This post was edited on 8/12/15 at 8:20 am
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14387 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 8:36 am to
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Been looking for houses in these areas and the prices are off the chart. And I'm not looking for anything extravagant. Something along of 3Br/1Bth or 3BR/2Bth, 1400-1550 sqft. Budget is 220-250k.


I grew up in the area. We had a house on Park Blvd that my great grand father build in the early 1900's

Parents leased it out for a while, and finally sold it about 15 years ago. Think they sold it for around $180k (4BR 2.75BA, 2200ish) so the same house listed a few years back for $360ish. was upgraded, but still

LINK

check out the fluctuations in the listing price in the past few years....
This post was edited on 8/12/15 at 8:37 am
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 8:36 am to
These threads are always good on the OT.
I couldn't live anywhere in Livingston for a laundry list of reasons, but I also have no desire to live in Capital Heights. There just isn't enough in the immediate vicinity to justify the SQFT prices IMO.
I'll take the Perkins/Highland area. Plus, St George is getting their own school district.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15344 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 8:40 am to
I can't believe people think BR is expensive. Compared to what - Monroe or Jackson MS? Maybe so, but are those really the best comparison cities ?
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 8:46 am to
quote:

I can't believe people think BR is expensive. Compared to what


I believe people are discussing neighborhoods being expensive in comparison to other areas in BR metro.

And $200 SQFT in most southern cities would probably be considered expensive. Who would you like to compare them to?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108337 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 8:54 am to
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I believe people are discussing neighborhoods being expensive in comparison to other areas in BR metro. And $200 SQFT in most southern cities would probably be considered expensive. Who would you like to compare them to?
At $200 Sqft Capital Heights in BR is competing with Lakeview and Old Metairie in NOLA. Which is astounding.
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
5061 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 8:57 am to
quote:

Inexplicably overpriced. Never understood why that area goes for over $190 per sq ft.



Do you even COLLEGE FOOTBALL!!! ?

Actually I don't know if that's it or not but I've often wondered the same thing.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77748 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 5:38 pm to
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At $200 Sqft Capital Heights in BR is competing with Lakeview and Old Metairie in NOLA. Which is astounding.
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 6:29 pm to
quote:

Do you even COLLEGE FOOTBALL!!! ?

Actually I don't know if that's it or not but I've often wondered the same thing

Nah. Probably matters just about nil.

Golfer, you generally seem to be of rational mind, what's your reasoning behind paying that over moving to other parts of BR that are still in incorporated BR and offer most of the same things but lesser sqft pricing?

I think mid city will continue to trend upwards, but just not sure that pricing is justified.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14970 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 8:05 pm to
1.5 hours? LMAO. These are people who are terrible liars. Used to date a girl from Addis who lived there, Plaquemine and Brusly while at LSU and I found LA1 and I-10 on the bridge worse than anything I-12 had to offer.

It's 20 minutes more than a typical commute mentioned earlier. The exchange of crime, fantastic public schools, less population density, and quality of life is on another level.

Plus whatever you like about BR is just a drive away, and I'm a few miles closer to fishing, hunting and even NOLA by way of I-55.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

Golfer, you generally seem to be of rational mind, what's your reasoning behind paying that over moving to other parts of BR that are still in incorporated BR and offer most of the same things but lesser sqft pricing?


First, you're only going to pay $195+ for something that's completely updated in the last 5 years and has all new plumbing, wiring, roof, etc.

Second, it's mainly young-professional, dual income families moving in. Most of them are raising their kids in private schools, and work somewhere bounded by downtown, LSU, and Jefferson/Essen. It's just convenient, allows for a neighborhood feel vs. subdivision, and added character vs. the garden homes or ranch styles that dominate other areas.
Posted by Wasp
Off Highland rd.
Member since Sep 2012
1533 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:31 pm to
1. There will always be new neighborhoods in Baton Rouge. Forever, the greater garden district area, beauregard town and spanish town will be the oldest neighborhoods in the city.

2. Most neighborhoods in Baton Rouge are fairly vanilla, architecturally speaking from the 50s-late 80s. We don't have many modern homes like other places. We don't even have much in the way of true colonials victorians and craftsman's like other cities do.

3. The neighborhoods were built to promote community. They (for the most part) didn't need big lots to seclude themselves in, they built porches, near the street. They built sidewalks to walk on. They planted trees because the neighborhood was built to last.

4. Neighborhoods were developed by people that took immense pride in what they were doing. They carefully designed and developed the neighborhoods to last the test of time not make a quick buck selling the lots too local builders or DR Horton.

5. For all of the talk around here about traffic problems, bringing up the central location of the garden district should be obvious. Unless you are trying to get to southeast br, everything is pretty close and easily accessible with multiple routes.

6. Quality of living. Proximity to schools, Lakes, Downtown, Mid City restaurants, LSU, Townecenter, Perkins road overpass/ acadian village. All within minutes. Living with like minded neighbors.

7. Lets talk $/SF. It is often relative to the size of the house. Neighborhoods have a bottom. In some cases, the bottom exacerbates the $/SF. Generally, the smaller the house in a desired neighborhood the higher the $/SF. The larger the house, the lower the $/SF until you get to the really expensive houses.
This post was edited on 8/12/15 at 9:33 pm
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