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re: Haynesville Shale North of Benton??

Posted on 8/12/08 at 3:48 pm to
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8850 posts
Posted on 8/12/08 at 3:48 pm to
Yeah, I'd say they have either seen something nobody else has noticed yet or they bought a speculative lease. Maybe they got access to some tighthole data on some recent wells in the area. Either way the landowners would have got a nice chunk of change.
Posted by Checkmateking2
Paradise Island, Bahamas
Member since Aug 2008
6692 posts
Posted on 8/12/08 at 3:49 pm to
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This post was edited on 8/18/08 at 9:54 pm
Posted by Checkmateking2
Paradise Island, Bahamas
Member since Aug 2008
6692 posts
Posted on 8/12/08 at 4:02 pm to
My best friends aunt has a 900 Acre spread in Bethany, I am trying to get her to adopt me lol. What are the chances there could be shale which is disconnected from the core. Basically a rogue play, its hard to tell exactly where certain mudholes were 150 million years ago? I know it sounds impossible, but it could happen?
This post was edited on 8/12/08 at 4:11 pm
Posted by MILR22
Plain Dealing, La
Member since Jul 2008
15 posts
Posted on 8/13/08 at 3:20 pm to
new group for Benton/Plain Dealing and surrounding areas. cpa-mineralrightsgroup.com
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
14128 posts
Posted on 8/13/08 at 4:04 pm to
From that website...
quote:

Intended purpose of this group
To negotiate:

a bonus payment on a per acre basis (starting negotiations at $35,000);
the primary lease term and / or optional extension period;
the royalty percentage and terms (starting negotiations at 30%);
and other relevant and necessary lease terms.



Even land in north Desoto, south Caddo, and south Bossier has yet to hit $35,000 per acre bonus, what on Earth makes them think they can get even close to that in north Bossier. They should count their lucky stars if they can even get 15-20k per acre and 25% royalties.
This post was edited on 8/13/08 at 4:06 pm
Posted by pittboss33
Bossier City
Member since Jul 2006
521 posts
Posted on 8/13/08 at 4:45 pm to
Since the cities of Bossier and Shreveport got absolutely NO BIDS today at the state lease sale, I doubt they get anything. They had a minimum of 27,500/acre and 27% but got no bids. They found out they aren't going to push the big boys around.
Posted by Flop
Member since Jul 2008
132 posts
Posted on 8/13/08 at 7:02 pm to
Pessimistic Pittboss again????
Posted by countryboy
Plain Dealing
Member since Jul 2008
73 posts
Posted on 8/13/08 at 9:17 pm to
Hey Flop...thought PB said he wasn't going to post here anymore? Last I saw of him he was keeping the ARK. people depressed!
Posted by Checkmateking2
Paradise Island, Bahamas
Member since Aug 2008
6692 posts
Posted on 8/14/08 at 12:11 am to
If that is true abuot that website it is really somewhat ridiculous, he has to be joking?, I stand corrected, I cannot believe that, I mean come on, no one has fought as hard as I have to push this play north and come up with legitinate information. What I have said is the gospel truth,That is really ridiculous, they will never get a nibble now 35000 acre?
This post was edited on 8/14/08 at 12:16 am
Posted by MILR22
Plain Dealing, La
Member since Jul 2008
15 posts
Posted on 8/14/08 at 9:52 am to
I've talked to someone who is one of the founders of the group, and he said that of course we are not going to get 35,000 and acre, we know that but its just our starting point. I would think, even though it sounds CRAZY, that starting high is better than starting low...
Posted by gingles
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
213 posts
Posted on 8/14/08 at 10:20 am to
PB, it's interesting that Desoto Parish got $27K and a 1/3 Royalty.
This post was edited on 8/14/08 at 10:21 am
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8850 posts
Posted on 8/14/08 at 10:27 am to
quote:

PB, it's interesting that Desoto Parish got $27K and a 1/3 Royalty.


Wrong. They got 30% (Not 1/3) on a .14 acre tract. Other than that most of the bids were in the 25% - 27.5% range. 1/3 would equate to 33.3%.
Posted by TigerStuckinOkieland
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Feb 2007
1330 posts
Posted on 8/15/08 at 9:21 am to
Tiger Dog,

Any recent info on where the NE limits of the play appear to be solid? In particular, on the border of Webster/Lincoln Parishes, due east of Minden.

Have friends with acreage now starting to get offers in the $5,000 range (up from $1,500 last month), which appears to be the only area that I'm hearing where prices are getting a bit stronger.
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8850 posts
Posted on 8/15/08 at 1:57 pm to
Petrohawk doesn't consider the shale to be present in Terryville, and I would be inclined to believe them. They have drilled a ton of wells to the smackover gray sand and would have drilled through the Haynesville section on every one of them. It will probably take some drilling to see what is productive in southern Webster. From what I have seen there is no basis for Lincoln and Caldwell parishes to be included in the Haynesville shale area as the Louisiana conservation map indicates. Of course the LOC is usually a lot slower in finding out what's going on than everybody else.
This post was edited on 8/15/08 at 1:59 pm
Posted by Checkmateking2
Paradise Island, Bahamas
Member since Aug 2008
6692 posts
Posted on 8/18/08 at 9:59 pm to
A noted geologoist has said it is present in Terryville field, Petrohawk? They are liars when it comes to Haynesville Shale? This has been proven by log? I mean when millions of dollars are at stake why lie?
This post was edited on 8/19/08 at 9:10 am
Posted by Checkmateking2
Paradise Island, Bahamas
Member since Aug 2008
6692 posts
Posted on 8/18/08 at 10:02 pm to
Do not listen to Petrohawk or their employees when your mineral rights are on the line, they are in the business to make money, I guess Tigerdog wasnt privy to that log? If Petrohawk doesnt consider HS to be anywhere I guess they could lease all the land for dirt cheap and screw everyone huh? Tigerdog said the zone does not exist in Terryville and another noted Geologist does, shame shame shame, we are talking about poeples living not making money for big gas, I am for the landowner,a noted geologist has read a log and says there is a Haynesville Shale zone in the Terryville field, if Tigerdog knows so much why would he go with what "Petrohawk says" They are the ones who want to lease the land and drill. Insider trading is insider trading, the US attorney general is already reviewing cases. You have thousands of poeple who have worked their arse off for decades to own a tiny piece of America and now we have thousands of sharks ready to screw them out of it, do not be eaten!
This post was edited on 8/19/08 at 9:10 am
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8850 posts
Posted on 8/19/08 at 8:34 am to
I certainly don't work for Petrohawk. And if the shalegeo you are talking about is the one on the rumor mill site known as gohaynesvilleshale.com be careful. I've seen him post some statements most people don't agree with. And I never said the zone didn't exist in Terryville, although in my opinion it's rather unlikely. There haven't been any Haynesville shale completions over there, not even from a vertical well. Petrohawk isn't the only operator over there either.
This post was edited on 8/19/08 at 9:38 am
Posted by Checkmateking2
Paradise Island, Bahamas
Member since Aug 2008
6692 posts
Posted on 8/19/08 at 9:12 am to
Well I am sure geologist's have differences of opinion, but as you have stated on here time and again log's and other types of hard evidence are hard to argue with. Sorry about the earlier rant.
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8850 posts
Posted on 8/19/08 at 9:34 am to
Yes, but I've seen the log in question and I don't follow where he comes up with the supposed shale zone. For one thing it appears to be located too deep to be Haynesville. It's also a very old log which really doesn't give you a whole lot to work with. Without a porosity log it is impossible to tell. Lots of opinions, but his opinion is not shared with many of the operators in that area. Also people don't read logs, they interpret logs. Keep in mind that although many people think these public companies are lying about all kinds of things, they have an obligation to keep their shareholders informed about what they are doing. They can't spend these kinds of dollars without justifying it to shareholders. If they were spending money to drill for the Haynesville shale in Terryville, they would have to acknowledge this to their shareholders. This hasn't happened.
This post was edited on 8/19/08 at 9:44 am
Posted by Checkmateking2
Paradise Island, Bahamas
Member since Aug 2008
6692 posts
Posted on 8/19/08 at 9:54 am to
well theyve only drilled a million or so gray sand wells in that area, no recent logs?
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