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re: Getting paid "under-the-table"
Posted on 11/23/11 at 10:44 am to Tiger JJ
Posted on 11/23/11 at 10:44 am to Tiger JJ
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Humans respond to incentives.
Of course. But not all incentives are economic. Some are internally generated, and they are particularly relevant to this discussion because the income tax is, to a large extent, self-reported.
The argument about the toddler is a red herring. I have no idea what you're talking about, but I assume it has something to do with a risk that helping the toddler would get you in trouble with the secret police or something. Obviously moral values are not some absolute trump card that overrides every other potential incentive, and the risk of getting in trouble with the Party is a serious incentive indeed. But those moral values are part of the equation, more, I think, than you're giving them credit for.
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Posted on 11/23/11 at 10:56 am to Cold Cous Cous
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because the income tax is, to a large extent, self-reported.
Are you referring to the OP or to the average taxpayer?
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The argument about the toddler is a red herring. I have no idea what you're talking about, but I assume it has something to do with a risk that helping the toddler would get you in trouble with the secret police or something. Obviously moral values are not some absolute trump card that overrides every other potential incentive, and the risk of getting in trouble with the Party is a serious incentive indeed. But those moral values are part of the equation, more, I think, than you're giving them credit for.
It's not a red herring - it's exactly applicable. It's very easy to morally grandstand when the cost of being "immoral" is very high (in some cases in this country you can make money off the "moral" action as you can perhaps cash in on 15 minutes of Good Samaritan fame).
What you are saying is more true for acts inflicted directly on specific individuals. And I mostly agree with you. But not paying taxes is viewed in a different light by most people because the "victim" is much more nebulous than one guy who had his money stolen from him. That's why the Madoff example isn't comparable to even the shoplifting example that was proffered.
Posted on 11/23/11 at 4:51 pm to Tiger JJ
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I guess you got the idea from me to laugh at the other idiot.
Now that Rivers is banned, you're the only idiot I laugh at on this board.
Posted on 11/23/11 at 5:13 pm to LSURussian
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Now that Rivers is banned, you're the only idiot I laugh at on this board.
I consider it a high compliment coming from the ultimate POS.
Posted on 11/23/11 at 5:33 pm to Tiger JJ
You're welcome!
Posted on 11/23/11 at 5:33 pm to Tiger JJ
quote:Now, now childrenquote:
Now that Rivers is banned, you're the only idiot I laugh at on this board.
I consider it a high compliment coming from the ultimate POS.
Behave yourselves!Posted on 11/23/11 at 5:34 pm to NC_Tigah
But daddy, he started it!
Posted on 11/23/11 at 7:56 pm to Tiger JJ
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But the reason you go 65 instead of 79 is because you don't want a speeding ticket.
Speaking for myself, I rarely exceed 10mph over the speed of surrounding traffic because that isn't terribly safe. I almost never travel under the speed of surrounding traffic b/c that poses an even more serious road hazard.
Fear of a speeding ticket has nothing to do with it. In practice, cops tend to pick out those who stand out from the crowd and the posted limit has little to do with their target selection.
Posted on 11/23/11 at 8:00 pm to Tiger JJ
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quote: I did look at her green card. Wow
Yep. I'll admit that she was eager to show it, I guess she had her own incentives.
Posted on 11/24/11 at 9:46 pm to TigerinATL
Lots of coaches in high school get paid under the table, should they report it.
Posted on 11/26/11 at 12:14 am to CP3LSU25
I talked to my CPA and he straightened me out. Like most of you, he was a little bit of an a-hole about it.
Now call Shanequia and let her know her welfare check is safe.
Now call Shanequia and let her know her welfare check is safe.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 1:01 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
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I talked to my CPA and he straightened me out. Like most of you, he was a little bit of an a-hole about it.
That's b/c he could lose his license if he didn't. If you tried to do it he could not have signed the paperwork. That is not being an a-hole, that's just being smart. Why would he risk his livelihood over a client's desire to hide income?
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:41 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
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I am trying to hide the profit
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Any ideas on how to keep it as clean as possible
does not compute
Posted on 11/28/11 at 11:48 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
This thread is generally terrible with everyone trying to act all high and mighty, but please let's not lose sight of the fact that you are in fact a gigantic tool.
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