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firing my financial advisor and doing it myself
Posted on 12/6/24 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 12/6/24 at 4:30 pm
I am contemplating doing this, but a little nervous to pull the trigger. If I did this I would put a substantial amount (or maybe all) of my current holdings in something like VOO or some other similar fund that basically mirrors the S&P as a whole.
My return for the last 6 months is 5.5%. And they charge me 1% so basically that's 4.5% net. Now they have me a lot more diversified and spread out so I guess safer than me just throwing most if not all of it into one fund.
Any advice from someone who has done the same thing is greatly appreciated. Or if this is very short sighted of me I'm all ears as to why. TIA for any advice. |and based on my total portfolio I would have made an additional 55K in last 6 months if all in VOO doing it myself vs where it is now, and thats hard to stomach.
My return for the last 6 months is 5.5%. And they charge me 1% so basically that's 4.5% net. Now they have me a lot more diversified and spread out so I guess safer than me just throwing most if not all of it into one fund.
Any advice from someone who has done the same thing is greatly appreciated. Or if this is very short sighted of me I'm all ears as to why. TIA for any advice. |and based on my total portfolio I would have made an additional 55K in last 6 months if all in VOO doing it myself vs where it is now, and thats hard to stomach.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 4:35 pm to GravelLotinCanada
Financial advisers can't beat the S&P 500 like you said. You should not be nervous about this at all.
Even running your personal situation through chatgpt will give you a great game plan as well.
Even running your personal situation through chatgpt will give you a great game plan as well.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 4:36 pm to GravelLotinCanada
yes, by all means fire slackster. 

Posted on 12/6/24 at 4:37 pm to GravelLotinCanada
in my experience, if you think there might be a problem with your rep being lazy, listen to you gut instinct
Posted on 12/6/24 at 4:37 pm to GravelLotinCanada
FA is one of the biggest bs jobs ever. Hey markets down time to buy. Hey markets going up time to buy.
If you're not active trader, stuff like voo, et, schd are all good long holds that have nice divys and move with the market. Drip it and forget it.
If you're not active trader, stuff like voo, et, schd are all good long holds that have nice divys and move with the market. Drip it and forget it.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 4:38 pm to GravelLotinCanada
For my 401K, I let my work's company handle that. But, they have been doing pretty well. That and I also get a 10% match 1-1.
Anything of my own personal money outside of my on-hand cash and about $50k emergency money (which gets around 4.5% just sitting in case we need it), I've added to (usually around $1500/month or so) done some ETF trading. I've found a balance that works for me:
35% high growth
35% dividends
15% bonds
15% stock market index
It's grown to about $78k. Percentage-wise it's been a lot better than letting it sit in high-yield. But, it's money I don't expect to touch for about another 10 years or so.
I've had to do a lot of research here and there but if it's anything super important like retirement funds, I'd prefer to have someone who knows what they're doing run it. That's just me though.
Anything of my own personal money outside of my on-hand cash and about $50k emergency money (which gets around 4.5% just sitting in case we need it), I've added to (usually around $1500/month or so) done some ETF trading. I've found a balance that works for me:
35% high growth
35% dividends
15% bonds
15% stock market index
It's grown to about $78k. Percentage-wise it's been a lot better than letting it sit in high-yield. But, it's money I don't expect to touch for about another 10 years or so.
I've had to do a lot of research here and there but if it's anything super important like retirement funds, I'd prefer to have someone who knows what they're doing run it. That's just me though.
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 12/6/24 at 4:46 pm to theballguy
I went through in the past year/half and had my rep get rid of the health care related funds
Rolled all that into JP Morgan JGASX and Vanguard VHIAX and VFIAX
been good
Rolled all that into JP Morgan JGASX and Vanguard VHIAX and VFIAX
been good
Posted on 12/6/24 at 4:52 pm to GravelLotinCanada
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My return for the last 6 months is 5.5%. And they charge me 1% so basically that's 4.5% net
Damn
Posted on 12/6/24 at 5:25 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Yeah damn is what I said. Well maybe another four letter word but I digress…
I think I am def going to trust my gut on this one. And I like the people I work with there too. But money is money.
I’m set up with fidelity, that’s where the money is held. I assume I can keep all the money in fidelity and just remove the advisor from account? Is it a complicated process? And then after the fact I can hopefully just liquidate everything they have me set up in and buy VOO and maybe a few other set it and forget it type funds.
I think I am def going to trust my gut on this one. And I like the people I work with there too. But money is money.
I’m set up with fidelity, that’s where the money is held. I assume I can keep all the money in fidelity and just remove the advisor from account? Is it a complicated process? And then after the fact I can hopefully just liquidate everything they have me set up in and buy VOO and maybe a few other set it and forget it type funds.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 5:39 pm to Raygun
NOBODY, AND I MEAN NOBODY cares about your money as much as you do.
You can do it yourself and probably match his earnings without paying his salary.
The next 4 years are going to be pretty good.
You can do it yourself and probably match his earnings without paying his salary.
The next 4 years are going to be pretty good.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 5:44 pm to GravelLotinCanada
It’s not that hard. You’d have to be a moron to only make 5% in this market
Posted on 12/6/24 at 5:48 pm to GravelLotinCanada
The next 40 years may not mimic the last 40 years. Google 'lost decade for the next ten years.' If we repeat a lost decade, the Index funds won't outperform individual stocks. I'd keep the FA, but only if they have an edge.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 5:56 pm to GravelLotinCanada
Your FA must suck. You have to try to get that bad of returns in this market
Posted on 12/6/24 at 6:20 pm to GravelLotinCanada
I mean, you filled out a risk tolerance questionnaire, and the FA put you in a portfolio for that risk level. Sounds like you were a nervous nelly about the market when you signed up and now that it’s up a bunch you feel like the FA did something wrong.
But yeah, you probably don’t need a FA and VOO would be fine in the long term.
But yeah, you probably don’t need a FA and VOO would be fine in the long term.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 6:25 pm to GravelLotinCanada
Doing it yourself is always the way to go in my opinion. There are a few things I have messed up on, but researched how to untangle it.
Most things have been great. I am up 118.79% over the past year, and YTD I am up 114.16%.
I purchase stocks/etfs to hold long term. Example, AMZN @104. Will hold it.
I purchase stock that I sell calls on and am very aggressive with it. If I buy it at $50 for example, I sell a call(s) close to it. I want the cash to fund dividend etfs. Some are 2x etfs that I have no intention of holding and the calls are larger. And this week was massive for me with that.
I get money weekly from various dividends. I let that drip back in unless I see another divi I want to be a part of. Then I "drip" it to that.
And there are some great people on the board that do things differently and I value that. I asked not long ago for push back, and he gave me push back.
If you are interested in options, there is a great thread on that. I would suggest it
Most things have been great. I am up 118.79% over the past year, and YTD I am up 114.16%.
I purchase stocks/etfs to hold long term. Example, AMZN @104. Will hold it.
I purchase stock that I sell calls on and am very aggressive with it. If I buy it at $50 for example, I sell a call(s) close to it. I want the cash to fund dividend etfs. Some are 2x etfs that I have no intention of holding and the calls are larger. And this week was massive for me with that.
I get money weekly from various dividends. I let that drip back in unless I see another divi I want to be a part of. Then I "drip" it to that.
And there are some great people on the board that do things differently and I value that. I asked not long ago for push back, and he gave me push back.
If you are interested in options, there is a great thread on that. I would suggest it
Posted on 12/6/24 at 6:31 pm to DaBeerz
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It’s not that hard. You’d have to be a moron to only make 5% in this market
no shite huh? just throwing it in a MM fund will get you 5% easily.

Posted on 12/6/24 at 6:34 pm to GravelLotinCanada
I had my $ with an advisor for 20+ years and finally moved it to self manage. I was being charged 1.5% in addition to the etf fees.
I managed a brokerage for about 8 years before deciding to do it myself.
Advice
Yes, you should move it and do it yourself.
You should buy etf's and forget about it.
Take a small piece and play with it to learn.
I managed a brokerage for about 8 years before deciding to do it myself.
Advice
Yes, you should move it and do it yourself.
You should buy etf's and forget about it.
Take a small piece and play with it to learn.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 6:35 pm to Fat Bastard
quote:
yes, by all means fire slackster.


Yes immediately. Dudes always wrong
Posted on 12/6/24 at 6:40 pm to theballguy
Not sure why you got a down vote, but good post!
That's why I like the money board. Most have a method. Mine is different from this. I don't have a % to break down my investment. I do it by dollars and my priority (which does change when goals are reached).
Right now, I have a dollar amount in mind for dividend payouts per week. Everything I make in the market now goes towards that (understand that I do have long term holds). I met my goals on the long term holds and switched my focus to funding the dividends until I see the payout reach what I want them to be. Then it's on it's own. Drip drip drip until I'm ready to take a weekly "check".
Once reached, I will switch my focus.
quote:
I've found a balance that works for me:
35% high growth
35% dividends
15% bonds
15% stock market index
That's why I like the money board. Most have a method. Mine is different from this. I don't have a % to break down my investment. I do it by dollars and my priority (which does change when goals are reached).
Right now, I have a dollar amount in mind for dividend payouts per week. Everything I make in the market now goes towards that (understand that I do have long term holds). I met my goals on the long term holds and switched my focus to funding the dividends until I see the payout reach what I want them to be. Then it's on it's own. Drip drip drip until I'm ready to take a weekly "check".
Once reached, I will switch my focus.
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