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Everyone seems to be talking about a recession.

Posted on 8/15/19 at 1:31 am
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
7729 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 1:31 am
I'm no money board expert and I have a lot of cash to burn.

Explain to me the pros and cons if it comes to pass.

A quick Google search suggests real estate,but I would prefer some real world experience.

What happens to interest rates? What other areas are greatly effected?

Is the recession talk just bullshite? I kind of feel that if you have cash on hand you can take advantage when the economy goes one way or the other, I'm just curious how to take advantage. Thanks in advance.

Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 3:11 am to
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Everyone seems to be talking about a recession.


Only idiots with an agenda

If a 3% loss in the Dow makes you clutch your pearls then the stock market is not the game for you.

As too your question just pick your favorite dividend paying large cap and hold it, I like utilities when they are down and DUK may look good if it drops a bit more.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
7729 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 3:37 am to
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I like utilities when they are down and DUK may look good if it drops a bit more.


If you can, break this down to me in layman terms. My wife and I have gone from 50k to 500k in a couple years thanks to promotions and bonuses. It's currently doing little for us, mostly from paralysis by analysis. Too many options and not enough knowledge.

I live in Bentonville Ar, which is one of the hottest real estate markets in the country. People say it's about 15 years behind Austin Texas. I feel like this is worth mentioning for people here to give proper advice.

ETA

Only debt is 120k left on our house. Pay off or not? Sorry if these are stupid questions, but it just kind of escalated quicker than I prepared for it.

This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 3:45 am
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 5:06 am to
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Only debt is 120k left on our house. Pay off or not?


Easiest free guaranteed returns on earth are not paying interest, the piece of mind is simply a bonus.

Lots of folks argue against it because the THINK they will do better in the market but that is not a certain thing IMHO.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123951 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 5:55 am to
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Only debt is 120k left on our house. Pay off or not?
All these decisions boil down to numbers and risk. But even given identical situations various folks will come to different conclusions. E.g., cavecanem suggests paying off your mortgage. Dave Ramsey would suggest the same. But interest deductible mortgage notes at 3.5% are cheap money. It all depends on what you'd do with the $120K.

Find a financial planner, go over things. Given facts, you'll see your way to a conclusion.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82037 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:10 am to
Sounds like you need to sit down with a professional
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:41 am to
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If a 3% loss in the Dow makes you clutch your pearls then the stock market is not the game for you.




While this is true, there are other indicators economists are pointing to that are sounding the alarm. The stock market is mostly reacting to those indicators and warnings.
Posted by Palmetto08
Member since Sep 2012
4048 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:50 am to
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Only debt is 120k left on our house. Pay off or not?


I say pay it off. No debt peace of mind is great and you could put your old monthly mortgage payments into some sort of savings/investing device.

You'll also probably be more determined to make up that $120,000 (although was never "lost") which should create positive future spending/saving/investing habits.


Either way sounds like you're in good shape. Congrats!


Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:31 am to
I mean you can always invest half in something that is gonna generate income like preferred stock. You need to lay out your goals. Do you want to deal with property? Are you going to be a landlord or pay someone to manage it. Do you want to truly dive into the real estate business or do you just want to be an investor. Maybe you could open Qdoba in Starkvegas. I'll eat there and support it.

Talk to a pro
It isn't a bad thing to have a little cash on hand to take advantage of an opportunity, but you also want something now that is gonna generate cashflow you just don't have to put all your chips in.
Posted by UpstairsComputer
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2017
1577 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 10:08 am to
The recession talk is not BS. If there was nothing else going on, this is still the longest expansion in history so reversion to the mean will eventually happen.

However, there is a ton that points to it... Between a decade of low interest rates, QE, highest deficits in history, tax cuts, etc and we still don't have consistent 3% growth, cracks are showing. The Fed is cutting rates again, the Prez is on twitter begging for QE, and we have a trade war with the 2nd biggest economy going on. This is a real possibility.

My advice would be to study up. Decide if you really want to do real estate, it's not as easy as it sounds, but if it's your thing, do it. If a recession does hit, you'll likely find some decent deals if the area has a decrease in prices because of loan defaults, etc. If you decide to invest in the market, study up. The market takes the escalator up, but the elevator down. Many on this board will say set it and forget it. I don't believe now is the time for that.

Sounds like you could probably pay that mortgage off and then have even MORE money to squirrel away monthly while you're learning and deciding what you should do next.
Posted by birdieman
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2012
1647 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 10:23 am to
You make 500k... pay that mortgage off and be done with the nuisance.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16995 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 10:44 am to
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Only idiots with an agenda

I wouldn't be so sure. I had dinner with some hedge fund managers in DC and they are betting bigly against the economy.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 10:52 am to
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I wouldn't be so sure. I had dinner with some hedge fund managers in DC and they are betting bigly against the economy.




Well, that settles that.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37123 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 11:20 am to
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My wife and I have gone from 50k to 500k in a couple years thanks to promotions and bonuses


Damn. Did y'all go from resident docs to private practice?

This economy has had a long, hot run and a slowdown is going to happen (it may be happening already).

A recession, i.e. economic contraction, is a possibility, and it's more of a concern now than it has in the last 9-10 years. I'd say chances of a quarter of negative GDP sometime in next 3 years is 50/50.

But slowdowns can hurt too.
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