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re: Diving deeper on Standard Lithium?

Posted on 5/30/23 at 12:18 am to
Posted by ev247
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 5/30/23 at 12:18 am to
Standard Lithium Retains BNP Paribas to Lead Debt Advisory Services for First Commercial Project

SLI President Andy Robinson reiterates, "Standard Lithium is in the closing stages of the Definitive Feasibility Study (DFS) for our first commercial project, the Lanxess 1A project... BNP brings an excellent track record of advising and securing debt financing for similar sustainable, battery and critical mineral projects, and we look forward to working closely with them as we endeavor to secure project financing for construction anticipated to begin next year.”

Posted by CecilShortsHisPants
One Foty Fo uh uh Magnolia Screet
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/30/23 at 4:36 am to
Let’s frickin go!
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3133 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 6:52 am to
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for construction anticipated to begin next year.


Not that anyone thought it would be bad, but...this release pretty much assures you the DFS looks good and it's all systems go.

That being said, looks like they (SLI) are preparing to fund the project themselves.
quote:

Exclusive Financial Advisor for Limited Recourse Debt Financing to Fund Majority of First Commercial Project

I wonder if Lanxess is backing out? Or maybe it is just to fund the majority of SLI's capex responsibility? Going it alone would be interesting. Keeping 100% of revenue and they don't have to mark the price down for Lanxess certainly isn't bad. But, that is a massive debt to take on long before generating revenue. I think I'd still prefer a partnership for the Lanxess site. I might try to reach out to them to see if they will clarify or enlighten me.
This post was edited on 5/30/23 at 6:54 am
Posted by astonvilla
New Jersey
Member since Dec 2005
3122 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 7:34 am to
can someone tell me in simple terms why is this a big news? I still hold a bag
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3133 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:00 am to
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can someone tell me in simple terms why is this a big news? I still hold a bag


I wouldn't call it "big news" because you still have to make assumptions when reading it, but it is optimistic.

The next 'big news' that everyone is waiting on is the result of the DFS (definitive feasibility study). To oversimplify the DFS, it is the extremely extensive report which will tell SLI/investors whether it makes sense financially to build the Lanxess plant.

The DFS/FEED is far enough along at this point that the results are 'known' to Standard. It is reasonable to assume that SLI would not be enlisting the help of a debt advisory service if the results were negative and they didn't plan on taking on huge debt to fund the construction of the plant. Therefore it can be reasonably assumed that this PR is SLI broadcasting that they will be moving forward with a favorable final investment decision (FID) and construction for Phase 1 Lanx in the near term.

Up 7% premarket - curious to see just how favorably the market takes this news.
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1637 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:04 am to
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secure project financing for construction anticipated to begin next year


This hints at DFS being positive and a mere formality at this point. Most here believed for some time the DFS was positive, but this adds to that belief and helps convince others outside of this bubble that the project is viable.

This also means that dilution of the stock may not be the path they take for funding the build their first commercial facility.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4586 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:10 am to
Also glad to see they’re ahead of the schedule with this and not waiting till the final deadline to get their strategy aligned.
Posted by astonvilla
New Jersey
Member since Dec 2005
3122 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:23 am to
awesome. makes sense
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3133 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 9:15 am to
Just another interesting data point. My shares were lent out at 16% over the weekend. A lot of short selling right now. Could compound the gains if good news is released.
Posted by ThermoDynamicTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
1281 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 9:29 am to
Mine are being lent at nearly 19%
Posted by FMtTXtiger
Member since Oct 2018
3734 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 2:24 pm to
So if DFS is extremely positive, whats next steps. Physical build out for production?
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
25932 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 2:48 pm to
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Just another interesting data point. My shares were lent out at 16% over the weekend. A lot of short selling right now. Could compound the gains if good news is released.


Why so many shorts on this all of a sudden? I only have 5K shares but I've made a bunch of interest on the loans.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 5/30/23 at 4:05 pm to



LFG
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4586 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 4:17 pm to
Well, some companies have reason to worry IF what this company is saying is true. They can truly be a market disruptor.
Posted by ev247
Member since Nov 2022
303 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 4:56 pm to
So the shorts who borrowed your shares at 16% over the weekend, how are they suppressing share price? Not refuting, only learning!
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
6256 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 5:49 pm to
One thing they do is the continual press releases regarding a supposed class action suit against SLI purporting that they put out false information.

I get a notification from TD Ameritrade about every 3 days or so. Certainly got one just minutes after today’s PR.
Posted by ev247
Member since Nov 2022
303 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 6:22 pm to
Man I hadn't seen those class action PRs. Only that SLI included a paragraph about the lawsuit in I think their earnings.

So the suit alleges that the LiSTR DLE tech's efficiency was overstated. How would they even know that? I guess the claim doesn't need to be true and the seeds of doubt are the whole point for the short sellers.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19508 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 7:13 pm to
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One thing they do is the continual press releases regarding a supposed class action suit against SLI purporting that they put out false information.


What! SLI didn't attend that conference or left early?
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3133 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:13 pm to
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So the shorts who borrowed your shares at 16% over the weekend, how are they suppressing share price?


So when a short sale occurs it’s essentially the same thing as a sale as far as the stock price reaction is concerned. The short is borrowing the shares from me so they can turn around and sell them to the market. So if a lot of buying can be expected to bring the price up, a lot of shorting (selling) similarly suppresses the price.
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3133 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:38 pm to
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So the suit alleges that the LiSTR DLE tech's efficiency was overstated. How would they even know that?

They don’t know it.

Are you familiar with the Blue Orca short report that was released?

In a nutshell, they took two unrelated data points, claimed they were related, and left out a huge caveat to come up with their claim that the tech isn’t as efficient as publicized. I’ll try to give you the spark notes. I don’t remember the numbers off hand so whatever I post below is just in example. But it’s in the same order of magnitude of dumbassery.

1) SLI claims in press releases that they have been running their pilot plant 24/7
2) SLI is required to report to the state how much lithium the pilot plant extracts as part of its R&D permit. This reporting is public domain.
3) SLI’s demonstration plant is advertised to produce (waving hands) 100 MT/yr LiOH. They only reported (waving hands) 5 MT over the year. Blue Orca/the suit claims this means that SLI’s recovery rate is actually less than 5% as opposed to the 95%+ that Standard claims. Just….absurdly ignorant difference.

The reality is that although the pilot plant was running 24/7, it wasn’t taking lithium out of the process. SLI isn’t allowed to sell it so there would be no point. They simply produce it as proof of concept/data collection, then mix it all back in with the tail brine and reinject it. If they reinject it, which they do for a vast majority of the pilot plant product, they don’t have to report it. Blue Orca fails to account for this wildly important detail.

In short, the report is baseless and unfounded and If you ever meet Soren Aandahl, punch him in the face.
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