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re: Diving deeper on Standard Lithium?

Posted on 4/5/22 at 10:56 am to
Posted by astonvilla
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 10:56 am to
Fe_Mike, are you still confident about SLI's future and long-term outlook? apologies to put you on spot but your voice is respected.
Posted by Sparetime
Lookin down at LA
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 11:35 am to
Watching ABC news last night they were reporting on the EU statement on global warming and the need for increased "battery" production. The next part made me smile. Currently their is basically no raw material production in the US, and Brandon is wanting some "green" material production quickly on home soil. Let's go Brandon
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 12:14 pm to
Sad that we have one Green Day for the whole year and the share lenders double down to big red us
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20080 posts
Posted on 4/5/22 at 12:33 pm to
These damn chucked arse maple leafers better get there arse in Hunters ear. If the country is going to go down in flames with a complete corrupt, pedo POS running it I might as well get some fire fuel in the form of $ from it.
This post was edited on 4/5/22 at 4:45 pm
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
23282 posts
Posted on 4/5/22 at 12:52 pm to
Maybe I'll do a substantial swing trade on the next peak. That will surely trigger a run up to $70 or more.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 8:57 am to
That’s crazy that they’re shutting the plant down for National kentaji brown Jackson day

I didn’t know that was a holiday yet
Posted by AUHighPlainsDrifter
South Carolina
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 9:28 am to
quote:

That’s crazy that they’re shutting the plant down for National kentaji brown Jackson day

I didn’t know that was a holiday yet


I hope these lithium nerd cannucks understand that she isn't a scientist
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 11:43 am to
I don’t get how this stock only goes down and still is positive
Posted by Auburn1968
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Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

I hope these lithium nerd cannucks understand that she isn't a scientist


She isn't a biologist either!
Posted by Turftoe
Denver
Member since Mar 2016
4231 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 12:41 pm to
what comes first, back to $6 or up to $9?
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

what comes first, back to $6 or up to $9?


Considering I bought some yesterday, probably $6
Posted by AUHighPlainsDrifter
South Carolina
Member since Sep 2017
3179 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:38 pm to
quote:


Diving deeper on Standard Lithium?
what comes first, back to $6 or up to $9?


I'm hoping for $6. I'm still adding when the opportunity presents itself.

I know! I know! Go ahead and downvote me.
Posted by PotatoChip
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 2:37 pm to
Upvoted, don’t tell me what to do
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
11678 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 11:15 am to
i hate this stock. it wont moon until i sell it and i aint sellin.
Posted by AUHighPlainsDrifter
South Carolina
Member since Sep 2017
3179 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

i hate this stock. it wont moon until i sell it and i aint sellin.


And here I was thinking it was my fault that the damned thing keeps going down. It's on you now baw!
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3563 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 5:55 pm to
quote:

Fe_Mike, are you still confident about SLI's future and long-term outlook? apologies to put you on spot but your voice is respected.


To put it mildly: very.

I am looking only at the Lanxess site in most of my investment thesis. The Southwest Arkansas project is something you probably should consider, but I undervalue it because I’m risk averse and frankly it makes the outlook 25% higher than an already kind of ridiculous price target.

I’m pulling these numbers mostly from memory so don’t fact check me but I think it’s close. The forecasted revenue of the Lanxess PEA was about $250M/yr two years ago. At that time the lithium carbonate price used was around $13k/ton. That price has doubled, presently, and is forecasted to reach $60k. The project economics have massively transformed.

Conservatively speaking, you’re looking at $550M revenue on the Lanxess project alone at full capacity with current lithium carbonate prices. Their operating costs have not gone up proportionally and even if they did, that’s still 2X EBITDA in your pocket.

That puts my very conservative price target at ~$25 (granted this is a few years out).

My biggest risk concern, that Standard would lose access to the brine, has been handled by the recent Lanxess agreement. They can totally back out of the JV and Standard still gets brine access.

The cash position is great. The partnership with Koch is great. You start putting in numbers like $60k/ton lithium carbonate prices and the SWA project and you get to Reddit levels of ridiculous pricing pretty quick.

I think we’re gonna see a climb back to ~$10-11 in Q2 in anticipation of pre-FEED (due Q2; not sure if we’ll see this report but we should get news that it’s done and proceeding to FEED). Then once the FEED is released (scheduled Q4) we’ll see a big jump. FID happens in Q1 for another jump. I think $20 by Mar of ‘23 is very realistic to settle into. Might spike higher than this but I think that’d be overvalued before completion of phase 1 which won’t happen til early 2024.

Risk here is still the technology not scaling, reagent costs skyrocketing, and Lanxess business decisions (they can still turn those brine operations off, in which case SLI’s capex triples).

But yeh, I’m still happy here. Sold about 10% of my position for portfolio balancing.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4822 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 6:39 pm to
My biggest concern about SLI is the rest of the market bringing it down since it’s still pre revenue, if we run into recessionary pressures. Investors are currently running away from stocks like this and flocking to string cash flow companies.

The story has always seemed great with this company but hopefully it doesn’t get caught in bad economic times.
This post was edited on 4/7/22 at 6:43 pm
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3563 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 7:22 pm to
Yup definitely could be a victim of it’s time.

And if they didn’t have $100M in cash on hand from the Koch placement that would be my #1 concern. But they’ve got enough cash to operate til 2030 and if the FEED looks good then raising the capital for the FID will be no problem. So the usual risks of a pre rev company aren’t nearly as prevalent. I think that’s something that is being undervalued. Koch just gave them $100,000,000 in cash. That bank roll alone just about supports their current market cap ha. Forget project NPVs (which if you’re keeping track is about $4B with a $15k/ton lithium carbonate price which equates to a $20/share price….ish)
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 9:31 am to
Thanks for the analysis Mike.

Can you explain the part in Bold a little more?

quote:

Risk here is still the technology not scaling, reagent costs skyrocketing, and Lanxess business decisions (they can still turn those brine operations off, in which case SLI’s capex triples).
Posted by astonvilla
New Jersey
Member since Dec 2005
3289 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 9:51 am to
thanks for the feedback
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