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Capital gains on home sale
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:13 pm
We lived in a starter home from 2014 to 2019 before we bought our current home. We have been renting that first home since 2019. Currently if we sell that starter home, we get to make around $800K before agent fees etc. How much tax will we owe if we do decide to sell that home? Is there any way to reduce the tax burden?
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:15 pm to rickgrimes
Do you need the cash or can you 1031 that money into another deal? Or a commercial deal even
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:24 pm to rickgrimes
800k profit on a starter home? Got damn
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:26 pm to rickgrimes
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We lived in a starter home from 2014 to 2019
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if we sell that starter home, we get to make around $800K
That's NOT a starter home by anyone's standards.
There are no starter homes anymore.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:27 pm to tiggerthetooth
Starter home in DC, LA or NYC maybe
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:27 pm to MrJimBeam
This..or be prepared to write a large check...
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:34 pm to rickgrimes
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make around $800K
Over what you paid (basis). Assuming yes but figure worth clarifying
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:40 pm to Im4datigers
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Starter home in DC, LA or NYC maybe
Its one of the coastal HCOL states.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:16 pm to rickgrimes
You wont owe much. You can exclude 500k even if converted to a rental if meet 2 of 5 year test. Just have to recapture deprecation.
Was a cpa for 5 years and hated it. No longer one so a little rusty but pretty sure I'm right. Actually, you make not quite make the cutoff, its close.
Was a cpa for 5 years and hated it. No longer one so a little rusty but pretty sure I'm right. Actually, you make not quite make the cutoff, its close.
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:18 pm to rickgrimes
If you've lived in the home 2 of the last 5 years, then I believe you can sell tax free gain up to $250k per person or $500k if married. Sounds like you'd have to pay Cap Gains on the $300k over the $500k tax free?
Posted on 7/7/22 at 11:02 pm to rickgrimes
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Currently if we sell that starter home, we get to make around $800K before agent fees etc.
“Make” meaning actual Capital Gains? Not net profit based on what you owe?
WTF kind of “starter home” has a capital gains of $800k, AND is a rental property for the last 3 years!? Assuming this is a modest ~50% increase, you have $1.6M “starter home” that’s now worth $2.4M….and people have been renting it since 2019?
As mentioned, if you lived there 2/5 years, you can exclude $500k. This is pro-rated if less than that timeframe. Also, since it’s capital gains, you deduct cost of asset and improvements made to it. If none of that applies, a 1031 exchange is about the only option to reduce tax burden.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 11:30 pm to LSUtigerME
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WTF kind of “starter home” has a capital gains of $800k, AND is a rental property for the last 3 years!? Assuming this is a modest ~50% increase, you have $1.6M “starter home” that’s now worth $2.4M….and people have been renting it since 2019?
It's a condo we bought for $500K in 2014 and is now worth ~$1.3M. The one next door to ours sold for $1.29M just last week.
It was our primary home from 2014 to 2019 and we lived in it for that entire 5-year period. We moved out in Sep 2019 and bought a SFH which is now our primary home. We have been renting the condo since Sep 2019.
Posted on 7/8/22 at 12:12 am to Im4datigers
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Do you need the cash or can you 1031 that money into another deal? Or a commercial deal even
If I had to take that money and invest that into buying a different investment property in a different state, how would that affect the 1031? How much of a time gap can there be between selling that first property and buying the next one? I keep hearing about the 45-day and 180-day rule, but not really familiar with how that whole thing works as this is the first time we are going through something like this.
Posted on 7/8/22 at 4:31 am to rickgrimes
quote:This echoes the Tigerland and Bamaswallows posts.
It's a condo we bought for $500K in 2014 and is now worth ~$1.3M. The one next door to ours sold for $1.29M just last week.
It was our primary home from 2014 to 2019 and we lived in it for that entire 5-year period. We moved out in Sep 2019
Based on what you're saying, if you close before September, the condo would check-the-box as your full time residence for 2 of the last 5 years. Proceeds from the sale would qualify for a $500K tax exemption.
Cost of the sale (brokerage fee, repairs, etc) will affect your bottomline. Assuming those apply, your LTCG tax exposure should come in south of $235K. Given your total income, I'd assume that portion would be subject to a 23.8% tax rate. (LTCG > $500K income + NIIT). So total federal liability on $735K would run about 7.5%. Depending on your state, you'll have some exposure there as well.
The 1031 Exchange is a nice alternative, but keep in mind you'd be reinvesting in a sector which may be at a peak.
If it were me in this environment, I'd take the cash and move it to the market.
Oh, and congrats on the nice windfall!
This post was edited on 7/8/22 at 5:07 am
Posted on 7/8/22 at 7:14 am to MrJimBeam
Someone with more knowledge of a 1031 exchange could help out here.
But is it possible to keep $500k of the sale tax free and then 1031 exchange the remaining $300k into another property to avoid any cap gains taxes on it?
That way you can still have some rental income cash flow (1031 ex.), avoid cap gains tax (1031 $300k), and still get a lot of cash from the sale ($500k)
But is it possible to keep $500k of the sale tax free and then 1031 exchange the remaining $300k into another property to avoid any cap gains taxes on it?
That way you can still have some rental income cash flow (1031 ex.), avoid cap gains tax (1031 $300k), and still get a lot of cash from the sale ($500k)
Posted on 7/8/22 at 1:11 pm to thunderbird1100
good question, doubt it though
Posted on 7/8/22 at 3:58 pm to rickgrimes
Will the home sell for $800K or is that what you'll clear in profits? You're cutting it close, but if you lived in it for 2 of the last 5 years, I don't think you have to pay taxes on profits under $500,000. I'm not an expert, though
Posted on 7/8/22 at 7:09 pm to thunderbird1100
You can do a partial 1031 and keep some boot or funds out of the new purchase. This boot would be capital gains and I would assume the $500,000 limit would apply to that unless there is a specific law applying to this. You’ll need a third party to complete the exchange anyway so I’d ask them if they have seen this done before.
Posted on 7/8/22 at 7:57 pm to rickgrimes
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It's a condo we bought for $500K in 2014 and is now worth ~$1.3M. The one next door to ours sold for $1.29M just last week.
It was our primary home from 2014 to 2019 and we lived in it for that entire 5-year period. We moved out in Sep 2019 and bought a SFH which is now our primary home. We have been renting the condo since Sep 2019.
I would suggest not doing a 1031. Too risky this late. You MUST sell before the two years of five expires...which is Sept. 1, 2022. If you sell after this, you pay the entire the capital gains fee. If you sell before, you exclude $500k, and pay 15% capital gains tax to the IRS and then whatever state tax is in your state. 15% of $300 beats the hell out of screwing up a 1031 (which no matter what people here say, is much tougher to execute than you would think). Pay the $45k and keep over $700k. Congrats!
Furthermore, you may be royalty screwed this late....is this home not even listed, yet? You have to CLOSE by Sept. 1 (or whatever the year two day 364 is). If you haven't listed it, yet, and then if ONE offer comes in and they fail to close, you are screwed. You better get fricking started now. If you have to pay on the full amount, this could cost you another $100k. Not joking.
This post was edited on 7/8/22 at 8:00 pm
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