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Posted on 8/26/22 at 5:04 pm
Posted by auwaterfowler
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
1917 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 5:04 pm
What would be a typical multiple of the earnings before taxes I should expect to begin negotiating for the sale of my business? The company that wants to buy it when I am ready to retire is my primary supplier, so there won’t be much additional operating cost for them to simply take over and supply my current customers directly. I’m guessing start at 5x and expect to settle at 3-4x?
This post was edited on 8/26/22 at 5:06 pm
Posted by Im4datigers
Northern Virginia
Member since Oct 2003
4461 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 5:14 pm to
Multiples are usually industry specific. If I was in your situation I’d get an outside 3rd party to give me a business valuation. You don’t have to share it with them but at least you know. Probably a good $1500-$2000 to spend.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15737 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 5:53 pm to
You need “diamond hands.”

J/K, like the other poster said get an accounting firm with experience in business valuation.

Some sells require a period of time where your business meets agreed on metrics.

Then the sell is final.
Posted by schexyoung
Deaf Valley
Member since May 2008
6534 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 6:24 pm to
Really difficult to discern a number without a detailed analysis to ensure you receive the price you deserve.

Meet with a CPA firm that specializes in small market transactions. Additionally you could reach out to a regional bank that has a merchant bank operation.
Posted by Im4datigers
Northern Virginia
Member since Oct 2003
4461 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 6:31 pm to
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Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20384 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 6:52 am to
One key metric that can really sway these is how much effort the owner puts in to the business and what the owner’s value to the business is.

If you as the owner have a ton of contacts and really help the business, your value is basically invaluable. If you are removed, how well is the business actually going to do without you?

Also, the business valuation is on the net income AFTER you pay a manager. So if you manage the business yourself but only pay yourself W-2 wages of say $50,000 but then take distributions worth much more then you need to value the business with a realistic GM’s salary built in. Which could be multitudes of your owner’s W-2 salary.

ETA: as said you are correct generally 3-5x net income is a good number but it is industry specific.
This post was edited on 8/27/22 at 6:54 am
Posted by LSUlove
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2003
518 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 7:13 pm to
quote:

If you as the owner have a ton of contacts and really help the business, your value is basically invaluable. If you are removed, how well is the business actually going to do without you


This is so accurate. In ,y business, my customers are there because of me. This makes it very hard to sell my company and to be honest I don’t know how to correct this. Very frustrating when trying to plan for an exit strategy.
Posted by Im4datigers
Northern Virginia
Member since Oct 2003
4461 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 7:59 pm to
quote:

This is so accurate. In ,y business, my customers are there because of me. This makes it very hard to sell my company and to be honest I don’t know how to correct this. Very frustrating when trying to plan for an exit strategy.


Here’s what I see as a banker. You stay on in a management or board executive role for 3-5 years after the sale. If you want to present it to your clients as still having skin in the game, offer some seller financing too.

Other than that, yea it is tough particularly if you are the owner and top sales guy
Posted by APT
Houston
Member since May 2009
191 posts
Posted on 8/29/22 at 8:56 am to
My opinions:
If you have a steady & growing bottom line you can ask for and expect 5-7X.

3X would be for a risky business with iffy management.
Posted by texn
Pronouns: Y'All/Y'All's
Member since Nov 2019
3495 posts
Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:23 am to
quote:

Business Valuation
Multiples are usually industry specific.


I agree. As a rule of thumb though, a wise old investor once told me to buy at 3 times EBITDA and sell at six times EBITDA.

If you can afford it, an appraisal from a knowledgeable and accredited business valuation expert would be wise.
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
46175 posts
Posted on 8/29/22 at 8:59 pm to
quote:

This is so accurate. In ,y business, my customers are there because of me. This makes it very hard to sell my company and to be honest I don’t know how to correct this. Very frustrating when trying to plan for an exit strategy.

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Posted by Doctor Strangelove
Member since Feb 2018
2959 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 6:47 am to
What kind of business is it? As others have suggested, pay an accounting firm who specializes in this field. I was surprised at the various methods used, (net income, comps, etc) to measure value. You should end up with a report with a range of values that can be quite a bit more than a 4-5x multiple.

I sold my business in January and the valuation was a critical part of the deal. Be sure to get an attorney that is experienced with acquisitions and make them cap fees at something reasonable.
Posted by auwaterfowler
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
1917 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:02 pm to
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What kind of business is it?


I am a distributor (broker) of a specialty packaging material. My company is 20 years old, employs only me, and does multiple millions in sales and has only had one or two years of year-over-year negative growth (none recently). My supplier (subsidiary of Mitsubishi Chemical) is already incurring selling costs by selling to me. If they buy the business, they will simply sell directly to my customers instead of to me and add pretty much 100% of my current Sales minus Cost of Goods Sold to their bottom line. I could see them wanting to have me stay onboard for a year or two to make sure everything transitions smoothly, and obviously there would some sort of ironclad long-term noncompete. In my mind, 3x of the last three years Sales - COGS would be a pretty good deal for them.
Posted by Doctor Strangelove
Member since Feb 2018
2959 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 4:11 am to
Interesting. My company was also a distributor, but for specialty chemicals. The valuation showed it was worth 5-7X net income. It was also a 20 year old company. I had multiple suppliers to multiple customers and products packaged in my companies name to guarantee anonymity. I’d be glad to share any of my experiences with you if interested. I hope it goes well. You are in the home stretch, but be sure to get this part right as far as the final sales price and terms.

Posted by auwaterfowler
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
1917 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 8:46 am to
Thanks. I may reach back out in the future. I’m still at least a couple of years away from making this move, but want to go ahead and get my mind wrapped around what I can expect.
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