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Borrowing against my Assets to borrow for an investment Property

Posted on 6/21/26 at 8:06 am
Posted by djrunner
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 6/21/26 at 8:06 am
I am looking at borrowing against both property assets and my investments to purchase an investment property. I know this is pretty common with possibly some on this board but I have never done it. I have not picked out a property or even a location for it but own a few other properties that are cash flowing out of state outright. I was going to borrow against them for a downpayment and borrow against my principal investments for the mortgage. I am of course most interested in purchasing a cshflowing property but besides that what should i be paying attention to here and, I am nervous about it, should I be?
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 6/21/26 at 8:16 am to
I have done it numerous times, although never with my primary residence. One issue I ran into was being forced to up my home insurance on our lake house (loan collateral) due to the size of the loan. I buy investment properties and keep an open line of credit. One advantage is this allows me to purchase as a "cash buyer". Often with cash purchases, the seller pays some of the fees that could be split between seller and buyer, otherwise.
Posted by djrunner
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
5684 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 8:27 am to
I am about to retire and that is where some of my concern comes from. Are you worried about not cash flowing a property or some sort of economic downturn leaving you upside down and putting your assets at risk?
Posted by Sunnyvale
Little ST. James
Member since Feb 2024
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Posted on 6/21/26 at 8:34 am to
Ive done it. But I bought the wrong house.
Investment house.

Complete Diaster.

But im working through it.
Posted by TheOcean
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/21/26 at 9:04 am to
Risky. No way I'd do it.
Posted by djrunner
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 6/21/26 at 9:58 am to
What is so risky?
Posted by djrunner
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
5684 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 10:00 am to
quote:

Ive done it. But I bought the wrong house.
Investment house.


Is it not renting or did you pay too much? Or something else? Trying to weigh risk...
This post was edited on 6/21/26 at 10:08 am
Posted by Sunnyvale
Little ST. James
Member since Feb 2024
3988 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 10:23 am to
Yeah, after missing 3 deals. I was eager to buy, and bought a house with the worst sellars, convinced I could make some lemonade out of this lemon.

I over paid, and under estimated the work needed.
Got a professional inspection as well. Caught some big red flags, Paid 40k under asking but it still wasnt low enough, should have paid around 60k under asking.

Still isnt rented and toting and I only have 25k left on the loan to finish, still need roof, AC, sheet rock, Cabinets, appliances, Etc.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
51292 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 10:33 am to
quote:

Still isnt rented
quote:

still need roof, AC, sheet rock, Cabinets, appliances, Etc.
thats probably why it isnt rented
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
93662 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:12 am to
read this thread

sounds like you need to learn how to run numbers on prospective properties.

Posted by djrunner
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
5684 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:50 am to
quote:

sounds like you need to learn how to run numbers on prospective properties.



Thanks but this question is more more of a borrowing question and specific to investors that have borrowed against other property or stocks etc. Not so much running numbers on properties. I own my other out of state investment properties outright and paid cash. I am now wanting to borrow against those properties and stocks to not come out of pocket and was interested in the advice from others that have done the same. I don't even have a specific property in mind at this point, cart before the horse situation where I want to figure out the best way possible and get an idea of capital I am able to work with first. Then I will identify the next location and property. I do think I will do Beach and Not mountains this time but that is about the only direction I have.
Posted by Sunnyvale
Little ST. James
Member since Feb 2024
3988 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

sounds like you need to learn how to run numbers on prospective properties.


Liek I said, I missed 3 properities , listening to a realtor who was grossly inexperienced.

If I had hit on any one of those 3, It would have been so more favorable and myself would have been in a strong position with positive cash flow.

I put in 3 offers, all were rejected, I was low 10,000, the other 15,000. I was adamantr about sticking to my offer. This one I was desperate.
And it stings buddy.

I did a pretty good job with running numbers.
I just miscalculated this one.
In hinesitght, I would have paid a little more, for so many less headaches.


This post was edited on 6/21/26 at 12:20 pm
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
3391 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 1:32 pm to
I borrowed against stock portfolio for primary home down payment. Rate was great initially but variable now at 5-5.25% so still not bad. Negotiate rates don't take first offer or what's published and be ready to switch brokerages if need be. Careful not to borrow too much or you might get a collateral call and assets liquidated. Think they allowed up to 70% portfolio value but I borrowed much less. My broker doesn't even require payments so now I just let the interest accrue as long as rates are below 6% and spend or invest excess capital.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
12963 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 3:39 pm to
investors that have borrowed against other property
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I have a line of credit that I use to buy houses for cash (mostly sheriff sales).

It is secured by three of my free and clear single family rentals.

I have flipped most, but those I wanted to keep, I eventually secured a mortgage.
Posted by Sunnyvale
Little ST. James
Member since Feb 2024
3988 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

I have a line of credit that I use to buy houses for cash (mostly sheriff sales).


I went to the Sheriff Sales and it was nuts in this Area.

Packed rooms and people just running people up to just do it.

Then the people flaunting, just buying houses and bragging about it.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
12963 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 3:54 pm to
Sheriff Sales were more subdued over here.

Most of the investors knew each other. Sometimes they had agreements on which houses they would not compete on. Other times, it was just to the highest bidder and very competitive.

It was not uncommon for the mortgage company attorneys to let investors know what there high bid would be. The mortgagee did not want to have to take possession and preferred that an investor buy it.
Posted by Sunnyvale
Little ST. James
Member since Feb 2024
3988 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

Sheriff Sales were more subdued over here.


I probably wont stick in this Area when I finish this house.

Too expensive.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
104432 posts
Posted on 6/22/26 at 7:13 am to
quote:

Still isnt rented and toting and I only have 25k left on the loan to finish, still need roof, AC, sheet rock, Cabinets, appliances, Etc.


I bet it also has faulty wiring that could lead to an unfortunate fire and insurance claim
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
4068 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 10:02 am to
quote:



I am about to retire and that is where some of my concern comes from. Are you worried about not cash flowing a property or some sort of economic downturn leaving you upside down and putting your assets at risk?




I stopped adding long term rentals a number of years ago, so I might not be the best to answer. I retired from my day job 10 years ago, and only do short term projects now. I have bought a few short term rentals in the past few years with intent to only hold them for a few years, and most of my activity is new construction now. I buy lots or land, hire a builder to build a spec house, then hire a realtor to sell it. These projects have about an 18 month life cycle, so I don't have to make long term projections.

For rentals, I have not experienced any downturns that have ever seriously affected my cash flow. I am in a growth area. My rentals have stayed occupied, so cost increases related to property tax and insurance increases have been the biggest changes to cash flow. Insurance costs have risen significantly in the past 5 years, so know the current numbers and expect them to keep increasing. I never treat maintenance costs as surprises. My cash flow issues happened with long term renters that I chose to leave their rent at same level. Long term renters are worth some cash flow changes to me. . If a STR or when bringing on a new renter, you can adjust rent prices. Investing in a growth area makes it much easier invest in any type of rental investment.

I became a real estate investor using some decent stock market assets to support any financial surprises. Not sure I would do it without a comfortable level of backup assets to deal with surprises. Also, I expect maintenance costs and never act surprised. A property that needs repainting, a roof and/or HVAC replacements are the big items that come with ownership. You can assess and have a plan for cost of those ahead of time. I have never experienced rental price decreases in my area in 25 years of owning rentals. I have seen short periods of home selling price decreases. But they followed recent price increases and were the buyers in the market pushing back on those increases. A growth real estate market is generally an appreciating one. I would only purchase property in a growth area.

What length of mortgage are you planning to use? The risk of becoming upside-down is much shorter if you use a 15-year mortgage compared to a 30-year. I used 15-year mortgages, so equity increases at a pace that works in your favor. I would find several successful realtors in the area to gain insight on the market. The caveat is to do your best to find good realtors to talk to, as there are more bad realtors than good ones. Bankers are also good resources for market information. Builders, too. I use all three professions as information resources.
Posted by djrunner
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
5684 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 12:11 pm to
Thanks for your response.
AI is pushing me towards a DSCR loan with 25% down payment ish, depending on the numbers. Since I am retiring my Debt to income will not be up to par here shortly.
Do you do any lifestyle purchases meaning STR vacation type investments? That is more of what we are looking at.
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