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re: Anyone else probably stuck in their current house forever?

Posted on 6/10/23 at 9:20 am to
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 9:20 am to
Your situation is very commmon. Which is precisly why there's no "crash." In growing markets prices are still rising despite 7% rates. In over bought markets/cities, prices are down 5-10% but not a major deal for most since their place went up about 40-60%

Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 10:18 am to
Depends on how far out you would need to move for a cheaper house.

If you can move further out into the country where land isn't scarce, you could get a lower price to offset the higher interest rate.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24724 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 10:49 am to
To the OP…getting stuck with low rates and huge equity gains is a wonderful problem. Timing wise, bought right before the run up in prices and still got a historically low rate…it will turn out to be one of the best / luckiest financial moves of my life.

When the wife wants to move in 6-8 years…we’ll deal with it then.
Posted by LSUShock
Kansas
Member since Jun 2014
5292 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 10:52 am to
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getting stuck with low rates and huge equity gains is a wonderful problem.
Correct. As someone in the market, I'm shaking my head at some of these replies. What a wonderful problem to have.
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
8391 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:11 am to
Same here. But I want to stay in our home as long as I can. We bought the house cause the elementary school was 1 block away. Once the kids are out of elementary school, I was going to sell the house . the school’s only thing keeping us there. However, the county just announced they’re building a middle and high school about three blocks away. Awesome , now I can stay there even longer.

As others have said, with interest rates and rising real estate values, I would have to take on a mortgage, something I really don’t wanna do; unless interest rates get crazy low again .

So, am I stuck? Yes. But that’s ok for me right now.
This post was edited on 6/10/23 at 11:14 am
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51583 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:20 am to
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Kinda feel like right now.

I got a fairly significant raise in 2021, plus the equity that I have in my house (12 years) had us primed to upgrade to something with land, but now with interests rates, our buying power got hit so hard.

We like our house and its certainly nice enough and big enough to continue raising our family for the rest of our lives, but we were looking to get out of the city.

Just doesn't seem feasible right now.

We want to move in 2 years. Our current house is 2.375%. We have over 60% equity in it though and we want to downsize for our next house. We'll be empty nesters.

My hope is that we can still buy what we are looking for, put a substantial downpayment down and pay it off in 10-15 years. I think that's still feasible for us with 6-7% rates.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
36941 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:38 am to
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My hope is that we can still buy what we are looking for, put a substantial downpayment down and pay it off in 10-15 years. I think that's still feasible for us with 6-7% rates.
I still say you should size the equity for the minimum you can still easily afford the payment. The goal should be to have the biggest loan possible for as long as possible.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 12:07 pm to
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I still say you should size the equity for the minimum you can still easily afford the payment. The goal should be to have the biggest loan possible for as long as possible.

If we move in 2 years I'll be 47. My wife is 4 years older than me. We don't want to carry a mortgage into retirement.

Our current plan is to go from a 4/2.5 BR that's 2500 sq ft down to something more along the lines of 3/2 1700 sq ft. Hopefully we can pay the bulk of it from selling this house.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 12:29 pm to
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We don't want to carry a mortgage into retirement.
What's the reason for that, may I ask?
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 12:38 pm to
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What's the reason for that, may I ask?

Just to keep expenses low. Our lifestyle will most likely be pretty reasonable in retirement. It would be nice to no longer have our largest bill though. We've been homeowners for 18 years now.

I think it's an attainable goal for us to be done paying mortgages by my late 50s/early 60s even if we move one more time.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
36941 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 12:42 pm to
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Just to keep expenses low. Our lifestyle will most likely be pretty reasonable in retirement. It would be nice to no longer have our largest bill though. We've been homeowners for 18 years now.

I think it's an attainable goal for us to be done paying mortgages by my late 50s/early 60s even if we move one more time.
I understand the impulse, but as an investor, it just kills me that it's dead money.
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
3212 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 12:45 pm to
We purchase our home in east Dallas at the beginning of 2020. We got it reappraised for a HELOC and the house has appreciated ~60% since then. I also refinanced my mortgage to 2.25%.

We aren't moving.
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 6/11/23 at 11:58 am to
Because the house appreciated, you should have the equity to be able to buy something better along with money you make from working.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13821 posts
Posted on 6/11/23 at 1:54 pm to
I wonder how long it will take for a startup to capitalize on people with 3% interest rates who have to move for work but don’t want to sell. Perhaps a rental app with a “point system” based on city, neighborhood, square footage, condition of house, public school system, et al. is given if you put your current house up for rent in their app. You continue to pay mortgage and use the “points” for rent in a different city. Might work if limited to areas like Austin, SF Bay Area, NYC, Houston, Dallas, Miami, Chicago, Denver, Boston, and then later expanding to Nashville, Tampa, Charlotte, DC area, Phoenix, Salt Lake City. Not practical for rural areas or smaller cities
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24724 posts
Posted on 6/11/23 at 7:33 pm to
The undercurrent of this thread is that the housing market is structurally screwed up going forward. It’s not a healthy market when there is such a meaningful portion of the marketplace that won’t participate in commerce because of the rate on a long term asset.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7501 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 10:58 am to
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Depends on how far out you would need to move for a cheaper house.

If you can move further out into the country where land isn't scarce, you could get a lower price to offset the higher interest rate.




Surprisingly not really.

Central TX even out in the "country" has blown up.

People have caught on how good it is here and are buying up land outside the metros.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10432 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 5:28 pm to
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The undercurrent of this thread is that the housing market is structurally screwed up going forward. It’s not a healthy market when there is such a meaningful portion of the marketplace that won’t participate in commerce because of the rate on a long term asset.


Eh, more like some are fixated on their current situation and apparently never had to buy homes with mortgage rates at 8 to 10%. I do feel sorry for 1st time buyers, more about current SFR valuations than rates. My wife and I are retired and have 62 months left @ 1.625% on a 7/30 ARM with a cap of 5.75%, been in this house in Santa Fe for less than 3 years and put down ~ 55% at time of purchase . Met with our realtor for lunch Monday and he said we could likely sell for $280k over what we paid for it ($60k was due to improvements), and fortunately Santa Fe county has it valued significantly below that and we pay ~ $4,200 in annual property taxes. We are still years from SSI, etc and won't be surprised if we don't move again within 5 years.

Texans never speak about how distorted their property tax rates are compared to many "southern" states and lack of flexibility for retirees in that respect.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24724 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 8:38 pm to
Property tax tougher for retirees to manage but better than state income tax for working professionals.
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