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Any better account to hold $ in besides VMRXX

Posted on 5/17/23 at 2:09 pm
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/17/23 at 2:09 pm
So I am holding cash in VMRXX, a Vanguard MM account getting a bit over 5% 30 day SEC yield. Any other similar account I should look at, this is my dry powder $ so don't want it in the market right now.

TIA
Posted by ynlvr
Rocket City
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/17/23 at 2:54 pm to
I think that is a great place to hide. Liquid, safe, flexible.
Posted by Triple Bogey
19th Green
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 5/17/23 at 3:07 pm to
Damn I like it, but its not available through TDA
Posted by Zzyzx
Member since Nov 2018
1884 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 3:22 pm to
I’ve got mine in there too.

Question tho, what is the implications of this debt ceiling worry on the money market funds?

If the US does default and not increase the debt limit, are money market accounts F’ed?
Posted by jgthunt
Walker
Member since Feb 2010
2464 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:03 pm to
Would this be a better option than a high yield with mysavingsdirect? Looking for somewhere to park about 20k that I don't immediately need but would like to keep available for land if something pops up.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 5/17/23 at 5:21 pm to
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Damn I like it, but its not available through TDA


SWVXX, which is available on TDA, has a 7 day yield of 4.9% - so the difference is negligible. Or you can buy 4 week T-bills, which are currently at coupon equivalent 5.5% and/or 13 week bills at coupon equivalent 5.25% (and remember the state and local tax benefits of T-bills over taxable MMFs).
Posted by skewbs
Member since Apr 2008
2008 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 9:08 pm to
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Or you can buy 4 week T-bills, which are currently at coupon equivalent 5.5%


School me on this - wouldn’t the 5.5% rate here be the annual equivalent? If he put 20K in a 4 week T-Bill, and did not reinvest, would he get the principal plus $1,100 in interest back at the end of the 4 week period?
Posted by GeauxldMember
Member since Nov 2003
4397 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:33 am to
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wouldn’t the 5.5% rate here be the annual equivalent?


Yes.

Real up side is the short term, so you can apply free money in your brokerage account to the t-bills.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19610 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:57 am to
You can only do TBills through treasury direct correct?
Posted by ynlvr
Rocket City
Member since Feb 2009
4591 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 9:27 am to
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at the end of the 4 week period?
Annualized Rate, not 4 week rate
Posted by ynlvr
Rocket City
Member since Feb 2009
4591 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 9:27 am to
If you have a Vanguard account I'd say yes
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4112 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 10:19 am to
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You can only do TBills through treasury direct correct?


No, they can also be bought through most brokerages. You can only buy new issues through Treasury Direct. On brokerage platforms you can buy and sell new and current issue bills, notes and bonds. Either way is good. Just depends on your preferences. I buy bills and notes through my brokerage because they’re marginable.
Posted by skewbs
Member since Apr 2008
2008 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 1:32 pm to
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Annualized Rate, not 4 week rate


That's what I thought. So am I wrong for assuming if he puts $20K in to a 4 week T-Bill that he will not earn 5.5% interest (i.e. $1,100 in interest) at the end of that 4 week period?

Another way of asking - what $$ will he get in interest at the end of the 4 week term on $20K principal with a 5.5% annualized rate?
Posted by ynlvr
Rocket City
Member since Feb 2009
4591 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:21 pm to
Divide that annual amount by 52 then times 4 to get an approximation
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19610 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 6:31 pm to
Can I get them through Vanguard?
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4112 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 10:03 pm to
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Can I get them through Vanguard?


I don’t currently have an account at Vanguard, but looks like you can. As with other brokerages, you should be able to enter orders for new issues and existing issue bills, notes and bonds.

Here’s a link that may help you and others.

How To Buy Treasury Bills & Notes Without Fee at Online Brokers
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19610 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 10:47 am to
Thanks
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:57 am to
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:07 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/22/23 at 12:09 pm
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4112 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 1:56 pm to
I was trying to remember who originally posted that How To link in another thread. If I’m not mistaken, it was you, correct?
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