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Advice on stocks to take long position on for IRA

Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:13 am
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:13 am
Looking for some stock picks from the board on what to take long. I've got about $2,000 left for IRA in this year.

Considering:
BX - Blackstone
ZOU - Zoura
T - AT&T
AAPL - Apple
DWDP - DowDuPont
V - Visa
VZ - Verizon

Any other stocks that you guys see as long term plays to buy and forget. I do prefer dividend stocks for the additional share purchasing.

TIA
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18929 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:18 am to
Your list is not complete without considering a REIT.

CIM - I have enjoyed a steady stock price and a 10% dividend from this one for a year now, having made a Roth purchase very similar the one you plan to make. Others have invested in this one for longer and have done quite well.
If you have a Roth, you need a REIT. The tax protection on the dividends is a must.

Others:
STOR
NLY
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:20 am to
The only fund you need. Picking stocks is for people who accept below average returns over time.

VTSMX
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:34 am to
I’ve always liked Visa but yea, an index fund is probably a good way to go
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48549 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:34 am to
I also prefer dividend stocks and reinvesting the dividend. I own the following in my main IRA.

AAPL
HD
CAT
JNJ
JPM
CVX
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:54 am to
thank you for all the advice so for.

Bayou, I currently have some REIT exposure with SCHH and it is about 10% of my current account.

That said, the yield on NLY at almost 12% current and 12.51% 5 year average is pretty attractive.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26579 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 10:21 am to
FNGD- triple inverse FAANG etf. Currently cheap at 28.9.

Also like KMI at 17.38
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 11:03 am to
quote:

LSUtoOmaha


i am not anywhere near understanding a triple inverse etf
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24149 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 11:07 am to
quote:

FNGD- triple inverse FAANG etf. Currently cheap at 28.9.



Why recommend a triple inverse ETF for someone who wants a long-term buy when time decay is a known issue?
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24149 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 11:08 am to
quote:

Mr.Perfect



Buy diversified ETFs and ignore the individual stock game.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

Buy diversified ETFs and ignore the individual stock game


Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

FNGD- triple inverse FAANG etf. Currently cheap at 28.9.
I can’t figure out why someone would recommend this at all, especially considering the OP wants to take a LONG position and this ETN (not ETF and therefore riskier already) is essentially taking a short position on the assets it’s tracking, plus all of the issues (time decay; , volatility drag, etc.) that are inherent to leveraged funds.

In all honesty, this just seems like terrible advice. And how can one determine it’s “cheap” when the long term trend would indicate that it should continue to get cheaper, like its 40% decrease since it opened in January would indicate?
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 4:11 pm
Posted by leoj
Member since Nov 2010
3106 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 4:56 pm to
MO is cheap. CL and KMB were cheap.

I like some stocks in the materials sector that are beaten down but have great management, fcf, and dividend growth. EMN, LYB, and CE.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

FNGD- triple inverse FAANG etf. Currently cheap at 28.9
And to further highlight the problem with this investment, look at its triple-leveraged counterpart, FNGU, which was first offered the same day (01/23/18) by the same brokerage and tracking the same assets. In other words, when the FANG sticks it’s tracking had a daily gain of 5%, then FNGU would have a daily gain of 15%, and FNGD would have a daily loss of 15%.

So one would expect that over any period of time, that they would yield opposite returns as well; however, due to the nature of daily resetting, and the resulting volatility drag and time decay risks, someone who invested $100 in FNGU on 01/23 would have have lost $17.30 and someone who invested $100 in FNGD on the same day would have lost $39.08.

In other words, because they have a daily standard deviation of 5.4%, 3X leverage either direction, has resulted in significant losses in both directions.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 6:29 pm to
quote:

AAPL
HD
CAT
JNJ
JPM
CVX



I own a few of there and would throw PNG, XOM, SO, ADM, also prefer VZ to T, IMHO AT&T is about to face some pretty stiff headwinds long term.

all of these are pretty safe DRIP darling.
Posted by tigersfan1989
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2018
1265 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 7:35 pm to
Target - TGT looks to be a good retail stock for dividend and long term growth. But I would personally prefer s&p index funds for IRA.
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 7:36 pm
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26579 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

FNGD- triple inverse FAANG etf. Currently cheap at 28.9. Also like KMI at 17.38


Good start for FNGD, it is less cheap now
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18929 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 9:26 pm to
Will Kinder Morgan EVER do ANYTHING? Slower moving than GE of old and T!

Love the BX suggestion from the OP. Add BlackRock to the list too. BLK?
This post was edited on 12/19/18 at 2:08 pm
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26579 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 9:45 pm to
I know right! Painfully slow but their pipeline builds out the Permian are finally starting up
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

Good start for FNGD, it is less cheap now
Now it's only down 32.43% since its inception on 01/23 and close to losing the same amount has as non-inverse 3X FNGD which is down 26.92%. Another day like today and they may have the same losses, despite tracking in the complete opposite direction.

In other words, with such high volatility, both are likely losers in the long run, and potentially major losers. Do you understand the problems with the thing you're recommending?
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 10:10 pm
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