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re: You baws ready to hire Matt Campbell yet?

Posted on 11/27/20 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 11/27/20 at 3:17 pm to

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Huh? Do you realize that star ratings ONLY apply to high school or Juco recruits?


Of course I do. Below is the quote I was responding to. It's completely dishonest that say that a player like Todd Harris has "four-star talent" just because he was rated as a 4-star years ago in high school.

A "rating" and "talent" are not the same thing.



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Not one of the worst, the worst, with 5* and 4* talent throughout the secondary.


Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35492 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 3:19 pm to
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It would make far too much sense for the powers that be at LSU to even consider it.


No administration in America would change coaches under the current situation.

It's a ridiculous suggestion
Posted by Txtiger90
Sugar land, Tx
Member since Jan 2013
255 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 3:20 pm to
They lost to ULL this year!!! That is one of the 2 losses!!!
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 3:21 pm to
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I don't care what they were rated in high school.
So we may or may not be doing well in recruiting now too?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35492 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 3:26 pm to
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So we may or may not be doing well in recruiting now too?


I'm not one to discount recruiting rankings. They obviously matter in the grand scheme. But they are also wrong a lot.

It's silly to be referring to a college junior or senior by his high school recruiting ranking. By that point he's either proven it wrong or right and is what he is.

Anyone who would refer to Todd Harris as "4-star talent" is just being facetious.


Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
18238 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 3:27 pm to
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No administration in America would change coaches under the current situation.

It's a ridiculous suggestion


If LSU has back to back losing seasons it will cost them far more than a buyout, and we know where the buyout money would come from. We are going 3-7 this year. We do not have 3-7 talent.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
18238 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 3:28 pm to
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I'm not one to discount recruiting rankings. They obviously matter in the grand scheme. But they are also wrong a lot.

It's silly to be referring to a college junior or senior by his high school recruiting ranking. By that point he's either proven it wrong or right and is what he is.

Anyone who would refer to Todd Harris as "4-star talent" is just being facetious.


There are highly rated recruits in every class who don't pan out. When was the last time it happened to an entire secondary?
Posted by IowaCityTigerFan
Iowa City
Member since Nov 2019
1533 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 3:29 pm to
What's your point with all those exclamation points?

This team is consistency ranked in 50s in recruiting and 7th in their own conference, yet they sit on top of their conference with a roster of 3 star players.

They came out flat in the first game. A lot of teams did. Then.. they got BETTER.

Campbell is a far better coach than O. It's sadly not even close.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79423 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 3:30 pm to
It feels like he gets a lot of credit but its more "we have a big upset every so often" and then go 8-5 or 7-6 every year.
Posted by IowaCityTigerFan
Iowa City
Member since Nov 2019
1533 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 3:31 pm to
You must not watch this team.. he gets a lot of his roster at a basketball school.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
35044 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 3:32 pm to
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He is my favorite coach in college football. I wanted them to go after him instead of promoting O.
At the end of 2016 he had 1 year at Iowa State and went 3-9.

So either you’re a liar or a dumbass. Your choice.
This post was edited on 11/27/20 at 3:34 pm
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
35044 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 3:33 pm to
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This team is consistency ranked in 50s in recruiting and 7th in their own conference,
Yeah let’s hire this guy! This is how to keep Saban and Jimbo out of Louisiana For recruits
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
35044 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

You must not watch this team.. he gets a lot of his roster at a basketball school.
He’s 33-27 in a shitty big 12.

“Gets a lot of his roster” is another way of saying he can’t recruit
Posted by IowaCityTigerFan
Iowa City
Member since Nov 2019
1533 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 3:35 pm to
Man.. there is a lot of idiots on this board that don't watch the games and just look at stats and records.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
35044 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 3:37 pm to
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Man.. there is a lot of idiots on this board that don't watch the games and just look at stats and records.
There’s also a lot of idiots on this board that say things like “I wanted LSU to hire Matt Campbell after 1 year at Iowa State where he went 3-9”

So you’re a liar or you actually wanted that. Again- your choice
Posted by jbraua
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Oct 2007
7793 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 3:38 pm to
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He is my favorite coach in college football. I wanted them to go after him instead of promoting O. He gets the most out of his players.


Everyone was saying the same thing about Tom Herman four years ago. Sometimes it’s just about fit.
Posted by IowaCityTigerFan
Iowa City
Member since Nov 2019
1533 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 3:41 pm to
You recruit to Ames... hahaha

Why are you so aggressively obtuse when all we do is disagree about a coach?

We can't have a discussion about a coach without calling each other names?

I think he coaches a great game with average talent. You don't. Ok..

This post was edited on 11/27/20 at 3:50 pm
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
27236 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 3:44 pm to
Yep
Posted by IowaCityTigerFan
Iowa City
Member since Nov 2019
1533 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 3:47 pm to
Again, I was in the camp that didn't want to promote O.

Yes, Campbell was the guy I liked the most. Amongst others.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35492 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 3:47 pm to
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There are highly rated recruits in every class who don't pan out. When was the last time it happened to an entire secondary?


Not sure where you are going with this, but this is different than your comment that we started with.

First we had a secondary full of 4 and 5 star talent, now the entire secondary hasn't panned out.

I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.

We have Stingley and Ricks who are very good, but have both missed time. Stingley has missed about 1.5 games and Ricks has missed almost a full game. Kary Vincent quit, which forced some younger players into more action than they were probably ready.

Really it's Todd Harris and Mo Hampton who don't look the part so far, but Hampton is only a true sophomore and could still develop. Harris is a redshirt junior. I think we can call him a bust at this point.
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