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re: Yes McMahon is overachieving a bit and kudo’s to him…
Posted on 2/28/24 at 4:40 pm to tigahlovah
Posted on 2/28/24 at 4:40 pm to tigahlovah
quote:Dale Brown cheated so much that he now has a basketball court named after him.. LoL…
is the fact that HARDLY ANY COACH (except that ole meanie Will Wade, and just maybe a couple more really nasty coaches) cheat.
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 4:41 pm to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
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He was a good coach, but y’all treat him like he was Phil Jackson in his prime.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 5:18 pm to Furlong the Red
A lot of fans are missing this about McMahon. Yes, he is showing he is capable of making good runs here and there but we have waited till the end of year 2 to see any glimmer of hope and it does not look good moving forward next year.
We are loosing Hannibal, Wright, Cook, Dean, Baker, Fountain.
What's the plan? attack the portal and hope there is tremendous exponential growth from Williams, Ward, and Reed?
Year 3 looking like it will be a step back from year 2.
We are loosing Hannibal, Wright, Cook, Dean, Baker, Fountain.
What's the plan? attack the portal and hope there is tremendous exponential growth from Williams, Ward, and Reed?
Year 3 looking like it will be a step back from year 2.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 5:24 pm to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
We didn’t have John Wooden, but we had WW, that’s my comparison to MM is all I can go by.
2 years LSU-
Recruitment 6 5*s, with 2 more on the way for WW
MM- 2 Top 100, best portal player couldn’t get off the bench as a freshman here
Record- 19-15 NIT 2nd rd: (WWyr1)
25-5 SEC 1st, NCAA Tour rd32(WW
Record- 14-19, 2-16 last SEC(MM)
15-13, 7-8 9th SEC
That’s the factual comparison in two years regardless of feelings.
2 years LSU-
Recruitment 6 5*s, with 2 more on the way for WW
MM- 2 Top 100, best portal player couldn’t get off the bench as a freshman here
Record- 19-15 NIT 2nd rd: (WWyr1)
25-5 SEC 1st, NCAA Tour rd32(WW
Record- 14-19, 2-16 last SEC(MM)
15-13, 7-8 9th SEC
That’s the factual comparison in two years regardless of feelings.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 5:48 pm to Sissidog02
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25-5 SEC 1st, NCAA Tour rd32(WW
Sweet 16.
Put some respect on it.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 5:56 pm to PlaySomeHonk
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LSU hadn’t beat 2 top five teams since my teammate Howard Carter and company did it in 1980.
Your teammate huh?
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I was up in Philly with the team. I contributed heavily to y'all shittin the floor. I had 3 players up in my room smoking weed and fuking hoes the whole time.
You were probably a bench rider "if" you were on the team..
RIP Cookie Man. Boy we had had some fun..
Posted on 2/28/24 at 6:12 pm to alessic7
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A lot of fans are missing this about McMahon. Yes, he is showing he is capable of making good runs here and there but we have waited till the end of year 2 to see any glimmer of hope. What's the plan? attack the portal and hope there is tremendous exponential growth from Williams, Ward, and Reed? Year 3 looking like it will be a step back from year 2.
It would be interesting for people to clarify what SEC record would be required for the 2024-2025 season for McMahon to keep his HC job. Can't use probation phobia any more...can't use having been a coach for only 1 or 2 years. After his 3rd year, what improvement needs to be shown in W-L to maintain his job. I say if he isn't 12-6 which would probably put him in the top 5 conference teams then Woodward should exact a coaching change.
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 2/28/24 at 6:19 pm to NotaStarGazer
Record doesn’t matter. I expect him to have LSU in the running for a spot in the NCAA tournament.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 6:21 pm to 1984Tiger
Agree with 1984, he has to make a run to the tourney by year 3. And it is not looking good barring some drastic roster changes
Posted on 2/28/24 at 6:30 pm to NotaStarGazer
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A hell of a lot higher than 50th the previous year
We finished 17th his first year. 47th last year featuring 2 top 110 players, but we finished 14th in the portal because we needed experience. Currently we sit at 31 because we’ve yet again only got 2 recruits…both in the top 70 nationally.
McMahon has recruited well in his first few years not sure how y’all can switch narratives from “he’s not a good coach” “cant develop players” to now “he can’t recruit”…which is literally the number 1 thing everyone said he was great at before he got here.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 6:37 pm to Sissidog02
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That’s the factual comparison in two years regardless of feelings.
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Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Will Wade is inarguably the more successful and better of the two coaches (so far)
Posted on 2/28/24 at 6:51 pm to TigerLifer18
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Wade is a much better coach than CMM.
Switch coach with recruiter and you have it.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 7:07 pm to JWill409
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McMahon has recruited well in his first few years not sure how y’all can switch narratives from “he’s not a good coach” “cant develop players” to now “he can’t recruit”…which is literally the number 1 thing everyone said he was great at before he got here.
No, he hasn't recruited well...not at all. And he has had plenty of chances too. You mentioned 31st so far in this class and said "only got 2 recruits". Well if you want to use numbers, go back to his first class where he finished 17th by signing a whopping 11 guys.
For the record, I haven't said "not a good coach" or "can't develop players". What I have said is he doesn't recruit well and also until the SC and KY games, he hadn't pulled a real upset in 2 years. Another disturbing situation is how his teams only seem to play one half of basketball. Usually, it is getting blown out in the first half and trying to come back in the 2nd half. Last night against GA, it was the opposite...good first half and holding on by the fingernails in the 2nd.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 7:10 pm to 1984Tiger
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Record doesn’t matter. I expect him to have LSU in the running for a spot in the NCAA tournament.
Fair enough prediction but IMO he should have to make more than "in the running for the NCAA tournament." My 12-6 record would put him in the tourney and if I was AD, that would be the line...make the tourney or I change coaches.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 7:40 pm to PlaySomeHonk
I was going to offer my thoughts but 385 downvotes in less than 24 hours says it all.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 8:18 pm to Pnels08
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this millennium lol.
24 years does not a millennium make.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:39 pm to PlaySomeHonk
Wade had a roster of players when he got here dumb arse. McMahon had one player, that’s it one fricken player because of what Wade did.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:58 pm to tigahlovah
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Yo moneyg, you make an EXCELLENT point. What makes it so excellent, is the fact that HARDLY ANY COACH (except that ole meanie Will Wade, and just maybe a couple more really nasty coaches) cheat.
The OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of coaches throughout history, especially the ones that win a lot of games, WOULDN'T EVEN DREAM of going anywhere near any situation that would require them to cheat.
I'm so proud of our 2019 national championship football team, because I know there was ZERO CHEATING going on. Yes, we had that small issue with Vadal's pops a few years prior, but he was the only one getting paid, and we nipped that in the bud. Guys like Fournette back then, didn't get ONE DIME in illegal recruiting inticements. Please keep the hot takes coming.
Your feelings seem hurt by the truth.
I didn't say Wade was alone in cheating. But, that's how he so quickly turned things around. It allowed LSU to recruit above it's natural program level.
McMahon simply doesn't have that option. The program was dead when he arrived because Wade, fairly or unfairly, was caught cheating, was fired, and put the program under NCAA investigation.
LSU would have been much better off to have kept Wade and just suffered the NCAA consequences. But, when it decided to fire Wade, it accepted a 2-3 year rebuild at best.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 8:59 am to NotaStarGazer
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What I have said is he doesn't recruit well and also until the SC and KY games, he hadn't pulled a real upset in 2 years.
How can you say that though? I personally know players I’ve worked with, 2 actually, one at ULL and one at Winthrop that was shown interest by LSU and did not entertain just because of uncertainty in the program. So even though the first year was “a good one” from a high school recruiting standpoint, we underachieved in the portal. We took whoever would come here and offered bench players like Cam Hayes etc starting roles because we had limited interest in the portal. Not to mention having limited film.
There’s no question he nailed both the high school and transfer portal this year though. Coincidentally after the uncertainty is gone, McMahon is able to bring in Williams who has literally won us a few games and Chest who has a to of promise. The following up with a portal class that has proved itself even dealing with injuries and ineligibility issues.
I don’t understand how that narrative is even logical, but it’s the only one you have because we’re staring 9-10 conference wins in the face and a possible NCAA tournament bid.
This post was edited on 2/29/24 at 9:00 am
Posted on 2/29/24 at 9:03 am to PlaySomeHonk
Sometimes it’s a good thing when a WW thread doesn’t get whacked 
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