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re: Yahoo report re: Wade wiretap discuss IN THIS THREAD

Posted on 3/7/19 at 2:54 pm to
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22282 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 2:54 pm to
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Extensive? There isn’t a paragraph worth of quotes. Some of the quotes are added to non quotes to create a narrative as well. There’s nothing here.



It's like you didn't even read his post.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8448 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 2:54 pm to
I mean the article even goes out of its way to mention that that was clearly a joke.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 2:54 pm to
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This is absolutely correct.

An NCAA investigation only has so much "teeth". It's quite another when you are on a witness stand in federal court being asked questions under penalty of perjury. The best thing for Wade would be a pretrial motion to quash seeking an Order that he not be forced to testify.

As you said, the wiretap was inadmissible in the first trial on the basis of relevance. Defense counsel seems to believe it's more relevant with re: to this particular trial. That's up for the judge to decide. But make no mistake, defense counsel is leaking this to Yahoo to if nothing else, exact a pound of flesh against the coaches who, lets be honest, were very much involved in the "process" of college basketball recruiting (not just Wade), because it seems a bit unfair that his client will spend 9 months in jail for a practice that everyone, coaches, agents, shoe companies, AAU promoters are all happily involved in.

It also circles back to the SDNY US Attorney's office being so attention starved that they are wasting federal resources to essentially investigate minor and largely victimless crimes simply because it gets them major headlines. They're putting a guy in jail for 9 months for a "crime" in which no one was defrauded. The judge recognizes that. It's why the sentences were extremely light.

Public institutions (i.e. colleges) aren't being "fleeced" by bribers. They're happily benefiting from great players attending their schools and generating profits for the athletic depts. But SOLELY because the SDNY always wants to be in the limelight, instead of just prosecuting significant crimes MUCH more harmful to the public at large, we get wastes of time and resources to stop a "wrong" no one is actually concerned about being stopped...including the purported "victims".

At its core, this is a notoriously attention seeking US attorney's office virtue signaling strictly for the sake of publicity





frick you, SDNY! frick you, New York! You two-bit, preening attention whores!
This post was edited on 3/7/19 at 2:55 pm
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143640 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 2:55 pm to
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I mean the article even goes out of its way to mention that that was clearly a joke.


Dude... are you that naive? Joking about offering money
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59416 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 2:55 pm to
People just don’t understand recruiting here when it comes to basketball. So many people are moving around, there’s no signing day when everybody has to make their choice at once. People move all the time depending on where other players are going. Smart brough guys with him when he signed. There’s all kind of “horse trading” going on with players and coaches it’s not that simple and they could’ve been talking about anything regarding Smart.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
164422 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 2:56 pm to
Draconian stallions
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
10260 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 2:56 pm to
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Elleshoe


You ok? You sound like you're taking this whole thing a little hard.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20143 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 2:57 pm to
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Which might give the NCAA reason to not push this when it's all said and done. If its too extensive.


The NCAA will pick their 1-3 lambs to sacrifice then just name the others to give them a black eye but there won’t be anything substantial to hang them on.

Bet your arse no name LSU basketball will be one of the lambs though.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8448 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 2:57 pm to
Dude....we obviously paid for players. No fricking shite.

The hope is there’s enough plausible deniability that the NCAA can reasonably decide not to investigate, bc they know if they do every single team that dealt with Dawkins will go down. Which is likely the majority of major conference teams.
This post was edited on 3/7/19 at 2:58 pm
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143640 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 2:58 pm to
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ou ok? You sound like you're taking this whole thing a little hard.


Because I’m not burying my head in the sand? What’s out there doesn’t look good
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
4053 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 2:58 pm to
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It's pretty obvious what's being discussed here.


Yes, a 7'2" kid that happens to not be a part of LSU. It's all talk and nothing more. If anything the guy was shopping around talent and mentions Balsa as if he's one of many grocery store items to choose from.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59416 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 2:59 pm to
Was giving him the benefit of the doubt because if extensive meant all the blue bloods included in the investigation would be in hot water too or add to the severity, that’s just laughable.
This post was edited on 3/7/19 at 3:00 pm
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143640 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 2:59 pm to
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The hope is there’s enough plausible deniability that the NCAA can reasonably decide not to investigate, bc they know if they do every single team that dealt with Dawkins will go down. Which is likely the majority of major conference teams.


That’s the hope.
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
10260 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 2:59 pm to
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What’s out there doesn’t look good


We all know this. To me, it's more of what is the NCAA willing to do and will they have anything concrete? It's way too early to really know either way.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 2:59 pm to
Thank you madking.

I wasn't talking about the references to the middleman. I was talking about the references to Javonte smart and his family. That was obvious to everybody that read my post except that fricking idiot Lester Earl.
Posted by lsutigermall
Plantation Trace
Member since Nov 2006
7301 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 3:01 pm to
Nothing more than we really already knew. This has no merit and is completely blown out of proportion.
Posted by mlminbtr
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2003
669 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 3:01 pm to
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I remember when Ole Miss hauled in that monster football class a few years ago, everyone knew.


Precisely! and then OM had the audacity to beat Alabama, not once, but twice. That, my friends, will raise the hair on the back of the neck of the SEC office and the NCAA office. Similar, to what is happening now with beating Kentucky in Rupp. There are just certain things you do not absolutely do.

Remember the "thing" with the Alabama players in Monroe...does anyone know what that DA got?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281927 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 3:01 pm to
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Extensive? There isn’t a paragraph worth of quotes. Some of the quotes are added to non quotes to create a narrative as well. There’s nothing here.


Your reading comprehension sucks. You're not even close
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59416 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 3:01 pm to
Because it’s made to look that way. Look at the actual evidence and you’ll see there’s nothing to it. The FBI was in BR because of this last year and left satisfied. I can’t believe people still take headlines seriously.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59416 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 3:02 pm to
Right and the other guy explained what you meant which was even more absurd.
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