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re: Would it have been "legal" if OB "blocked" the kick in end zone?
Posted on 9/9/13 at 1:41 pm to therick711
Posted on 9/9/13 at 1:41 pm to therick711
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He didn't leap above the crossbar to field it so the rule would not have applied on that specific play.
No - I understand- the play he made was legal and spectacular, actually - I've been watching football for 42 years and I cannot recall a non-blocked FG returned for a touchdown, much less one fielded in the end zone.
What I'm worried about is that he stated that his intention was to block it, and since he was there and it was short, he just fielded it. THAT'S what I'm worried about.
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Rules are rules. Got to read them.
I know the rules, I quoted the rules and provided a link.
This post was edited on 9/9/13 at 1:42 pm
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Posted on 9/9/13 at 1:43 pm to Ace Midnight
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I know the rules, I quoted the rules and provided a link.
Fair enough. I didn't see your link anywhere saying that he stated an intention of blocking the field goal. If you have such a link, I'd be interested in checking it out.
Posted on 9/9/13 at 1:46 pm to therick711
ESPN Blog
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The play Beckham wanted to make, though, was to block the field goal he returned for a touchdown, not to field it. He said he set up under the posts hoping to make a Kevin Garnett type of leap to swat the attempt away. Instead, he settled for catching the ball and finding a seam in the coverage.
Posted on 9/9/13 at 1:47 pm to Ace Midnight
Very interesting. I noted they didn't quote him on that. Thanks for the link, I hadn't seen that. Good little piece.
Posted on 9/9/13 at 1:52 pm to therick711
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Very interesting. I noted they didn't quote him on that.
That's why I was giving him the benefit of the doubt - he was quoted in the article, just not on that point. Therefore, without context... anyway, I just hope someone gets a point of clarification with him (if he is in doubt about the rule) about what would and would not be legal in the future.
Posted on 9/9/13 at 1:58 pm to LSUAce007
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On the 20. That's why it's risky and rarely done. The only time I've ever seen done is at the end of a half where field position doesn't matter because the clock is expiring. I remember Antonio Cromartie taking one back about four years ago.
Funny thing is it isn't as risky as one might think. First of all its the field goal unit and not a punt or kick off unit, so the return coverage is going to be really poor. Second of all, they are only worried about kicking the field goal.....even getting down field to tackle a track star in OBJ is the last thing they are expecting.
This post was edited on 9/9/13 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 9/9/13 at 2:00 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
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Funny thing is it isn't as risky as one my think.
I've never seen a player field a short field goal and fail to take it the distance. Not saying it has never happened, but the vast majority of the time this play occurs, it is a touchdown.
Posted on 9/9/13 at 2:04 pm to LSUAce007
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On the 20. That's why it's risky and rarely done. The only time I've ever seen done is at the end of a half where field position doesn't matter because the clock is expiring. I remember Antonio Cromartie taking one back about four years ago.
If you really think about it, this should be done more often and not just at the end of the half. The kicking team always has almost nothing but O-lineman in the game blocking for the field goal who are not at all accustomed to covering a kick. It basically creates a situation where it's a glorified kickoff and instead of all the 2nd string linebackers and db's running down there to make a tackle, it's fatass o-lineman
This post was edited on 9/9/13 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 9/9/13 at 2:58 pm to White Shadeaux
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Posted by White Shadeaux quote: if OJB It's "OB" or "OBJ" if anything.
Well since he calls himself odb, you probably should too.
Posted on 9/9/13 at 3:23 pm to Ace Midnight
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II. Team A attempts a field goal from Team B’s 30-yard line. A Team B player in the end zone leaps above the crossbar and bats the ball in flight. The ball goes into the end zone and is recovered by Team B. RULING: Foul for batting the ball in the end zone. The result of the play is a touchback, safety.
so if a team is going for a long, game-tying field goal as time is expiring, it would be conceivably worthwhile to block it at the cross bar and recover it in the end zone for a victory securing safety?
Posted on 9/9/13 at 3:31 pm to 9th life
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so if a team is going for a long, game-tying field goal as time is expiring, it would be conceivably worthwhile to block it at the cross bar and recover it in the end zone for a victory securing safety?
Except, I don't think the game can end on a defensive penalty - it's possible you would have to defend the return of the free kick - although this is such an esoteric situation, there would have to be a conference and consultation with upper echelon officials if it came up (or that's my prediction.)
Posted on 9/9/13 at 3:42 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
quote:Actually might be a nice constraint play for 45+.
Funny thing is it isn't as risky as one might think.
Cat and mouse for coaches.
Do I want to protect the kick or defend the runback? What package will I field?
Aw hell, just punt the damn ball!
Posted on 9/9/13 at 3:46 pm to Mayhawman
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Aw hell, just punt the damn ball!
Or fake it with 11 on 10?
The enemy always gets a vote.
Posted on 9/9/13 at 3:54 pm to MakeMoney
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I would think so. In the postgame video from Geaux247 OBJ actually said he was hoping the kick was higher so he'd have a change to swat it. I wouldn't think he would have said or thought that if it was illegal.
On the show with Gordy and Les Miles, Miles said Mac saw from previous games that the coach liked to kick long FGs so he sent Beckham out there.because mostly fat or slow people line up for a FG kick.
Posted on 9/9/13 at 3:56 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:Actually offense is a holder down already. At least you'd have a deep safety on D.
Or fake it with 11 on 10?
Posted on 9/9/13 at 4:00 pm to Mayhawman
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Actually offense is a holder down already.
You serious, Clark? Half the time, the holder runs the fake (or passes it - lots of them are QBs or punters who were QBs in a previous life).
Posted on 9/9/13 at 6:56 pm to Ace Midnight
Initially he was on the field to field a punt as he lined up at the 10 until he realized they were kicking a field goal.
Posted on 9/9/13 at 7:09 pm to lsuallsportsfan
Absolutely legal! 
Posted on 9/9/13 at 7:12 pm to lsuallsportsfan
If that would have happened, I would have been like OMG OBJ
Posted on 9/9/13 at 7:15 pm to Ace Midnight
A field goal attempt is simply a punt that may score 3 points. Same rules. No magic!
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