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re: Woffford not starting their Ace?
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:36 am to Choupique19
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:36 am to Choupique19
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As the great Skipper said. You win the first two no matter what.
He never said that.
He said if you lose a game early, it makes no difference if it’s game 1 or game 2. You are still in the same spot with regards to how many games you have to win.
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:36 am to CalRipkenJr
quote:still sounds really dumb. And then after all that you just posted, you would still have to go 2-0 in a regional final to advance with the backend of your bullpen.
I mean if you're gonna roll the dice roll em hard! Lose game 1 with whoever, win game 2 (against the 4) with your #2 and throw your ace in game 3 against UNC's #3 in an elimination game!
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:37 am to Dizz
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You know how you save bullpen arms? Have jump shove it down their throat
The goal isn't to save bullpen arms.
The goal is to save Jump (given if you pitch off), Holman (given if you pitch off), Herring (if you can) and Ulloa (if you can). You don't care about anyone else because whoever pitches today will get a day off tomorrow.
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Wofford is not a shitty 4 seed.
I think this is your problem. You can't see past Wofford. The goal isn't to figure out what gives us the best chance of beating Wofford. It's to figure out what gives us the best chance of beating UNC...twice.
It boils down to who you want Ackerman pitching against. Do you want to roll with him vs. UNC in game 3 (assuming you beat UNC in game2) or do you want Ackerman vs. Wofford who is not starting their ace.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:38 am to Glock17
Could be a gamble. Pull off the upset and you still have your ace in your back pocket.
High risk, high reward.
High risk, high reward.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:39 am to Glock17
Too late for us to use Ackenhouse?
Wofford planning to come out of the loser bracket.
Wofford planning to come out of the loser bracket.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:40 am to AtlantaLSUfan
Jump's back all the sudden tightened up. It's the damndest thing
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:40 am to Glock17
Don't worry they'll get 8 innings out of some rag arm.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:41 am to Who_Dat_Tiger
We could go Jump vs UNC Game 6 and Holman Game 7.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:41 am to moneyg
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I think this is your problem. You can't see past Wofford. The goal isn't to figure out what gives us the best chance of beating Wofford. It's to figure out what gives us the best chance of beating UNC...twice.
The goal is to win the first game. You don't set your pitching up worrying about having to beat a team twice. It boils down getting your team to 2-0 on Sunday.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:42 am to moneyg
quote:and if you lose to Wofford today you have to win 2 games just to get to the regional final to have the opportunity to beat UNC twice. Could you imagine the backlash if LSU didn’t throw Jump/Holman today and we lost? Then on top of that we didn’t throw them in game 2 or 3 either because we were saving them for UNC in the regional final “to give us the best chance of beating UNC twice”.
The goal isn't to figure out what gives us the best chance of beating Wofford. It's to figure out what gives us the best chance of beating UNC...twice.
CJJ would be run out of town by everyone here if he didn’t throw our 1-2 punch in 3 whole games
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:44 am to moneyg
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I think this is your problem. You can't see past Wofford. The goal isn't to figure out what gives us the best chance of beating Wofford. It's to figure out what gives us the best chance of beating UNC...twice.
If you win the first two games, UNC has used up all of their good pitching before they play you in game 3 because they have to play the losers bracket game. Ack plus the pen is better than UNCs game 4 pitchers, and anyone we have after that is better than who they have left. Jay is going to do everything he can to win games 1 and 2. He has made that very clear.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:45 am to RB10
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Get to 2-0 and worry about cobbling together 1 more win to advance. fricking around and burning 3-4 bullpen arms in game 1 would be bad even if LSU won.
This is obviously the smart play. Pitching down shouldn't even be in the discussion with this 24 club.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:46 am to Dizz
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The goal is to win the first game.
Again, this is your problem. You are a single variable thinker.
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You don't set your pitching up worrying about having to beat a team twice. It boils down getting your team to 2-0 on Sunday.
That's an opinion. It's based on simplistic thinking.
I think there is minimal risk in throwing Ackerman.
And, my plan gives us a MUCH BETTER chance of getting the 3rd win which you need to advance. We'd be throwing Jump and Holman vs. UNC.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:46 am to Who_Dat_Tiger
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and if you lose to Wofford today you have to win 2 games just to get to the regional final to have the opportunity to beat UNC twice. Could you imagine the backlash if LSU didn’t throw Jump/Holman today and we lost?
Scared mentality vs supreme confident mentality that Skip and Paul incorporated. They never pitched their ace in game one. Their attitude was that LSU could easily beat their game one opponent with their 3rd starter. They both did pretty good here.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:47 am to csorre1
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Jay is going to do everything he can to win games 1 and 2. He has made that very clear.
I don't get why this is so hard for everyone to understand. This board also seems to forget this team lost to Southern with the same bullpen arms everyone is yelling to throw today.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:48 am to Tammany Tom
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They both did pretty good here.
And Jay Johnson has not?
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:48 am to GeauxtigersMs36
Because is arm probably didn’t recover after throwing all f those innings in the conference tournament.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:49 am to Choot em Tiger
Johnson can manage it however he wants, people are just pointing out that the posters who are saying it’s an absolute, and that it’s the only way coaches would go about it, are wrong.
Personally I don’t disagree with throwing Jump or Holman in this particular scenario.
Personally I don’t disagree with throwing Jump or Holman in this particular scenario.
This post was edited on 5/31/24 at 10:51 am
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:51 am to Choupique19
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He said if you lose a game early, it makes no difference if it’s game 1 or game 2. You are still in the same spot with regards to how many games you have to win.
Losing game 1 pitching off doesn't hurt NEARLY as much as losing game 2 and not pitching off.
In the first scenario, you've still got your two aces available.
In the second scenario, you've burned your two aces, have to win another game, and then would have to figure out a way of beating UNC two times.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:52 am to MOT
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posters who are saying it’s an absolute, and that it’s the only way coaches would go about it, are wrong.
That may be a misunderstanding. I can't speak for everyone but I've been saying what I think Jay would do. I don't dispute that there are other ways to do it and other circumstances that factor in. I just feel that Jay is now 6 for 6 on pitching his #1 regardless of opponent.
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