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re: With Smart being cleared all that Will Wade will do for LSU in the future is cost them

Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:32 am to
Posted by profwilson
Member since Jul 2004
869 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:32 am to
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Smart isn’t on wiretaps. Our former coach is.


Yes, purportedly talking about arranging improper benefits for Javonte Smart. If investigations reveal no evidence of Smart ever receiving said improper benefits, then it's kind of hard to hang Wade out to dry for that conversation (for which we do not know the context).

Look, there may be more shoes to drop in the future with other recordings or evidence that has not yet come to light. But based on what we know now, it's hard to draw much of a distinction between Wade and Smart. The LSU administration has just painted itself into a corner with a knee-jerk reaction that they can't now find a graceful way to back down from.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:33 am to
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They have him lying after the 1st leak too.

What did he lie about? I remember him saying he had never "done business" with Dawkins and I'm not sure how you think this tape proves otherwise. Sounds to me like he's more venting than "doing business".
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81739 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:34 am to
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If they believe Smart that nothing violating NCAA rules occurred with his recruitment then the only reason Wade is still suspended is his unwillingness to discuss the matter due to advice of counsel.
Meh, isn't it possible that something involving the "third party" was improper, but that it does not disqualify Smart?
Posted by tigerfan0082
Member since Oct 2011
676 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:34 am to
I’ll admit it, yes I like WW more than LSU administrators! And...

I want LSU to win, period. Wade has been better at winning than Alleva or F King.
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:35 am to
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Except for the contractual obligation WW has to cooperate fully with LSU and NCAA in any possible investigation or rules violation. Clamming up on lawyers advice is not fully cooperating. It's the smart thing to do, but does not comply with his contractual obligations.




Contradictory obligation can be a defense to a breach of contract claim especially when it involves an officer of the court giving proper legal advice to his client. The NCAA and a civil court case by Wade against LSU would be two different things and a court could question why LSU needed Wade's cooperation, which his counsel promised after Wade gave his upcoming testimony, if they had done as they claimed and done an exhaustive investigation in several states to clear Smart.
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 10:37 am
Posted by tigerfan0082
Member since Oct 2011
676 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:43 am to
Honest question, is making an offer illegal? Or does a transaction need to occur?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:44 am to
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Will Wade is being paid despite directly breaching his contract agreement


Every major college sports coach breaches their contract. Keep showing your arse.
Posted by oVo
Member since Dec 2013
11837 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:45 am to
Fight me bitch
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278748 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:46 am to
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You're on quite the crusade, here, aren't you?




You hate facts?

I want Will Wade to coach again, but that is the reality of the situation right now.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:49 am to
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You're on quite the crusade, here, aren't you?




I wish he cared as much about holding the football coach accountable for his performance as he cares about holding Will Wade accountable for his actions.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278748 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:49 am to
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Every major college sports coach breaches their contract. Keep showing your arse.




are they fighting for their job because they are on FBI wire tap, have lied to their superiors, and wont meet with them about it?


what a stupid frickin post
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14012 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:51 am to
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Every major college sports coach breaches their contract, but don't get caught on wiretap.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7612 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:53 am to
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They have him lying after the 1st leak too


Still spreading this lie. Day after day, thread after thread.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278748 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:53 am to
Will Wade is by far my favorite coach at LSU and Ive been a champion of his even when everyone was bashing him earlier this year. I am not delusional enough to look past facts. Pretty simple.
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:55 am to
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Honest question, is making an offer illegal? Or does a transaction need to occur?


As a criminal concept there would have to be specific numbers and actions discussed.

As an NCAA concept it is a bit murkier.
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:57 am to
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I am not delusional enough to look past facts. Pretty simple.



quote:

Pester Earl


Other than the FBI transcript what other facts do you have?
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7612 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 11:00 am to
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Other than the FBI transcript what other facts do you have?


And do we know if this is even factual?

Anonymous leak of an alleged partial transcript.

I don’t know, you don’t know. Lester Earl probably does though.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278748 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 11:01 am to
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Other than the FBI transcript what other facts do you have?




there are tons of facts concerning little details of this story. Wouldnt know where to start.


Will Wade not talking to LSU is probably the biggest.
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 11:03 am to
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And do we know if this is even factual?

Anonymous leak of an alleged partial transcript.

I don’t know, you don’t know. Lester Earl probably does though.




And I am not claiming the conversation was not actual but I am saying I could sway its meaning absent other information. What if Wade claims "damn strong offer" meant he maximized the student aid he could legally get for Smart at LSU. As LSU claims it investigated THOROUGHLY IN SEVERAL STATES and found nothing wrong with Smart's recruitment that "take" could fly.
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 11:07 am to
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Will Wade not talking to LSU is probably the biggest.



This is not going to make sense to someone like yourself who has a room temperature IQ but when your attorney says not to talk about an upcoming legal matter you listen REGARDLESS OF YOUR POTENTIAL GUILT OR INNOCENCE. In fact, he did those officials at LSU a favor as they could have been subpoenaed had he discussed the matter with them. And though his contact specifies he cooperate with an investigation, contractual language is not the word of God and courts routinely dismiss such claims of breach when mitigating or, in this case, contradictory legal circumstances are present.

Now, you can go back to masturbating in your own feces.
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 11:09 am
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