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re: Will Wades Style & Why We Should Not Care About Losing Recruits Right Now
Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:13 pm to AlecRock23
Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:13 pm to AlecRock23
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Go look at the stats
He was having his best season
He had TWO good games in the West Virginia tournament. But that wasn't out of the ordinary. He had multiple good games in the non-conf. schedule the year before and ultimately averaged 7 and 4 in SEC play. If you look at the three games before the WV tournament he had 6 and 8, 5 and 8 (3 TOs benched in 2nd half in favor of Chest), and 6 and 3.
Maybe those two games in the tournament were the springboard to a great season. But the 72 games of data before his injury suggested that was unlikely. That's why I've always argued against this notion that he was "LSU's best player" or that things would have been drastically different the last two seasons if he didn't get hurt because those assertions were based more on hope and supposition than actual evidence. He was a good player capable of a big game here and there, but never consistent. That was the case even within games. A times he looked dominant. Then suddenly he would looked totally checked out. Like did not even realize the ball had been put in play checked out.
I think it is great that he stayed loyal to LSU at a time where that is a rarity. I hate to see any player's season/career cut short due to injury. But the program has turned the page. If Wade sees him as a needed member of the roster, great. If not, I don't think it is a catastrophic loss.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:22 pm to tadelatt
I love Wade. I will say I hope we see more of:
Pick-and-Roll Heavy: Offense runs through ball screens and guard decisions
Opportunistic Transition: Push When Available, Not Reckless
and less of:
- Drive & Kick: Attack the Paint — Collapse the Defense — Kick Out for 3
- Isolation Freedom: Allows Top Players to Create 1-on-1’s, Especially Late in Games
Pick-and-Roll Heavy: Offense runs through ball screens and guard decisions
Opportunistic Transition: Push When Available, Not Reckless
and less of:
- Drive & Kick: Attack the Paint — Collapse the Defense — Kick Out for 3
- Isolation Freedom: Allows Top Players to Create 1-on-1’s, Especially Late in Games
Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:25 pm to tadelatt
How many sweet sixteen, elite 8 and final fours did those guys get us into?
Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:30 pm to JWill409
Runs a lot of double horns series, runs some zoom, runs a lot of 3 across and he will run some iso, either turn four for a post player or a simple iso from the elbow depending on his personnel. He did use post ups with Reath, Naz, Days, Watford and Efton Reid so saying he never did this is just incorrect. It doesn’t take brilliance to understand basketball sets, everyone runs them but I can see how you might think it is being you don’t know anything and just make shite up.
This post was edited on 4/1/26 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 4/1/26 at 4:53 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
Some strong arse offers coming!
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:34 pm to TygerLyfe
I like Acuff in the purple and gold
Posted on 4/2/26 at 10:31 am to Madking
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He did use post ups with Reath, Naz, Days, Watford and Efton Reid so saying he never did this is just incorrect. It doesn’t take brilliance to understand basketball sets, everyone runs them but I can see how you might think it is being you don’t know anything and just make shite up.
He doesn't use a big that can post up to feature his offense, is exactly my point. You just gave a bunch of actions that have zero to do with featuring a big posting up on the block(not the elbow) with his back to the basket.
-The Zoom action he runs is a 5 out DHO, big is on the perimeter
- 3 Across, the post player is actually in the corner. Even if you switch the post player down low, his job is to seal. He is not featured in the action, the PG is.
I didn't say he never posted players up. I said he never featured a big as a focal point of his offense. Duop Reath wasn't even recruited by Will Wade, outside of that, you've got zero examples other than Efton Reid. In his 5 years at LSU and 2 at VCU, you've got maybe 1 example. The offense wasn't ran through him, it was ran though our guards. Days, Naz, Watford you're trying to use in an argument as post dominant players? I think ill leave that right here. You're twisting my words and trying to say that Wade never had players post up. I never said that man lol
You mean Horns Double?
That doesn't feature a player posting up, it's built for guards getting ball screens from the elbow
Turn Four? Explain that, is it a 4 out concept?
Thanks for proving my points for me. All outside-In concepts/players.
Posted on 4/2/26 at 10:51 am to JWill409
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Duop Reath wasn't even recruited by Will Wade, outside of that, you've got zero examples other than Efton Reid.
You just listed two examples. He coached here for 5 years, so 40% of his teams you can make an argument a big is featured? I think part of Wade’s reputation is flexibly altering his approach to fit his team as opposed to cramming players into a single system.
Posted on 4/2/26 at 11:18 am to JWill409
Dishonest and incorrect as usual.
Posted on 4/2/26 at 2:19 pm to JR Hamilsbach
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You just listed two examples. He coached here for 5 years, so 40% of his teams you can make an argument a big is featured? I think part of Wade’s reputation is flexibly altering his approach to fit his team as opposed to cramming players into a single system.
Well I gave examples from VCU and LSU, to actually make him look better. I watched alot of the games at McNeese. He didn't have a player over maybe 6'8 either year. They were not post players at all. So really it's close to 10 years, but whose counting?
Lubin would be another example, but he is undersized and got ate up by Vokietaitis, which is my point. It's why Texas made a run. If he keeps this philosophy in the current SEC, we're going to struggle with those kinds of teams.
Posted on 4/2/26 at 2:25 pm to Madking
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Dishonest and incorrect as usual.
No, what I said is correct. If you disagree, then explain why instead of throwing around your normal bs. I even asked a few questions in the last post.
Posted on 4/2/26 at 5:53 pm to JWill409
No what you did was pretend to ask different questions than the ones you initially asked then you changed your qualifier for the answer that debunked your statement so dishonest and incorrect like I said.
Posted on 4/2/26 at 5:55 pm to JWill409
Your height doesn’t determine if you’re a post player or not. Was Corliss Williamson a post player? Yes he was and was also under 6-8. The claims you’re making are just false. Sorry, learn basketball.
Posted on 4/2/26 at 6:27 pm to Jrv2damac
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What recruits has LSU lost so far
We have lost some McMen to the transfer portal. All I got.
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:41 pm to tadelatt
I’m not worried about anyone LSU basketball loses right now. Because like Kiffin in football, I know Wade will replace them with better SEC caliber talent. Wade will step into the ring with the blue bloods to snag some elite talent.
Posted on 4/2/26 at 8:12 pm to Madking
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Your height doesn’t determine if you’re a post player or not. Was Corliss Williamson a post player? Yes he was and was also under 6-8. The claims you’re making are just false. Sorry, learn basketball.
It doesn’t. Efton Reid is your only example, and he was not featured as my original point was. All of the other players mentioned are not post players. The reason they are not is because Wade runs a 5 out system that is built for guards/wings to be featured. Many many years, he didn’t even have a Center on the roster. The years he did, they didn’t play. Why? Because his system is built on guards attacking the rim. Pick and roll. Veer, STS, Isolation. Wide spreads with shooters in corners/baseline runners and forwards setting screens. Very rarely will you see a low post entry and actions away from the ball. So all these examples you gave, Watford, Eason, Days, Reid etc. can they get a bucket from the post? Yes. Are they getting the ball on the block? No. That’s why they’re all wings in the NBA because their skill set was built off the dribble first. Days was a pick and pop spot up shooter. That is a fact. So again, you throw out all these bs actions that validate my point and then you double down saying I’m throwing out qualifiers? Lol. I also asked you to explain these things to me so I can try to understand what you’re saying and the best you can do is tell me I’m being dishonest and to learn basketball. Good talk.
This post was edited on 4/2/26 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 4/2/26 at 8:55 pm to JWill409
So, here are just a few examples of what I’m talking about. 5 out sets. Do you think these are inside out looks? Who is featured? Who is the post player? Also, notice these shooters in corners. This is called the idiot corner. It’s risky to have one player in a corner, but to have two, is why transition defense will be a problem as well, I haven’t even gotten to that point yet.
Lots of standing around too, that will be fun. Hope I’m wrong guys!
Lots of standing around too, that will be fun. Hope I’m wrong guys!
This post was edited on 4/2/26 at 9:01 pm
Posted on 4/2/26 at 8:57 pm to JWill409
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It doesn’t. Efton Reid is your only example
First line is a lie.
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The reason they are not is because Wade runs a 5 out system
Second point is a lie.
The rest of both your posts are nothing but the same. You’re just a dishonest waste of time.
This post was edited on 4/2/26 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 4/2/26 at 9:06 pm to Madking
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First line is a lie. You’re a dishonest waste of time.
That’s what I would do if I were you too man. I would bow out too instead of explain in detail. Your only point has been “post players can be undersized”. Ok, so again, who has been featured on the block in the post in his offense??
Posted on 4/2/26 at 9:10 pm to JWill409
So far nothing you’ve said has even a tangential connection to reality. You make conflicting and hypocritical statements, you make outright false statements and you not only lie about what other people say, you lie about what you’ve previously said. You have no clue what you’re talking about so you try to frame everything but you’re too stupid to stay inside your own framing. This is all in service of an agenda which is why it’s so obvious and easy to pick apart.
Don’t worry you are
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Hope I’m wrong guys!
Don’t worry you are
This post was edited on 4/2/26 at 9:12 pm
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