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re: will the real les miles please stand up?

Posted on 11/30/13 at 12:13 pm to
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 11/30/13 at 12:13 pm to
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He's perfectly content and happy with end results like the one yesterday.


Yes because one should be sad when one's team wins.

I guess that is how you operate, right?
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 11/30/13 at 12:15 pm to
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However, I'm one of the few that feels like our talent is severely overrated.



In that regard, exactly how many #1 recruiting classes has LSU had?

Talent is good,yes. Superior to everybody else,no.
Posted by TulsaTimeTiger
Edmond, OK
Member since Dec 2003
1096 posts
Posted on 11/30/13 at 12:16 pm to
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Arkansas played up to LSU more than LSU played down to Arkansas


well what do you call one of our linemen getting called offsides 4 TIMES? I don't think I've seen anything like that before.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/30/13 at 12:17 pm to
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is he the bad coach for letting a team like Arkansas almost win, or a great coach for inspiring his team to come from behind like that with a reserve qb and 2 reserve OL?


he's an imperfect coach trying to manage the inevitable ebb and flow of an imperfect game...based on his record he seems pretty good at it
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 11/30/13 at 12:18 pm to
It's a legit criticism. Miles seems content with bad performances that result in a win, although I think that's him just reacting after a win.

I'm glad he enjoys his job enough to be happy about winning but the really competitive coaches aren't usually satisfied with lack luster performances the way Miles is or appears to be.
This post was edited on 11/30/13 at 12:22 pm
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/30/13 at 12:20 pm to
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TheBob

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Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76270 posts
Posted on 11/30/13 at 12:20 pm to
It's Les Miles. Somehow he ends up with a bunch of wins.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 11/30/13 at 12:20 pm to
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well what do you call one of our linemen getting called offsides 4 TIMES? I don't think I've seen anything like that before.

You must have missed the following sentence where I said LSU made plenty of mistakes. My point was that Arkansas did not make many of those mistakes and executed (sealed blocks, didn't drop passes, few penalties)
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/30/13 at 12:23 pm to
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but the really competitive coaches aren't usually satisfied with lack luster performances the way Miles is.


based on his press conference, I don't think he was satisfied with the win as much as happy for his players that they pulled it out. He probably does have more "fan" in him than some coaches. But the object of the game is to win, after the game you celebrate winning, the day after you focus on the performance.
Posted by valpeaux
Member since Dec 2007
479 posts
Posted on 11/30/13 at 12:26 pm to
I'll take his old-school football offense against any gimmicky systems that would likely replace him. Game-day mental preparation is seriously frustrating, though.

Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 11/30/13 at 12:26 pm to
Oh, I agree with all that... But I do understand the critics of Miles on this issue. I don't necessarily think it's as big of an issue as they make it out to be.
This post was edited on 11/30/13 at 12:28 pm
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22777 posts
Posted on 11/30/13 at 12:28 pm to
Yall need to realize that LSU's biggest weakness is run support by our LB's. Why did we shine against A&M??? Because we have great coaches (plural which includes Les) and our LB's didn't need to play run support on the RB's the whole game.

Why did we not shine against Ark? Because they are the opposite of A&M and we defensively do not match up well against their style of offense.

That is it in a nutshell.
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
16433 posts
Posted on 11/30/13 at 12:30 pm to
I think he is who he is. Although IMO he has lost a bit of his edge,and has probably peaked . The alternative is such an unknown that the present looks better than it should......
Posted by TheBob
Metairie
Member since Jun 2005
16935 posts
Posted on 11/30/13 at 12:36 pm to
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His winning is consistent.


It is, you're right. It's how he gets a bunch of those wins that bothers me. I like to look at how we get it done as opposed to getting it done. How we get it done is absolutely terrible. It's miserable watching this team play like shite against bad football teams. It's miserable because we should beat the dog shite out of everyone on our schedule outside of Alabama.

We're an inconsistent football team in terms of how we play, and always will be. Most coaches would be upset with the way we performed yesterday. Not Les though. Wow what a game.
Posted by tigerdup07
Member since Dec 2007
21966 posts
Posted on 11/30/13 at 12:37 pm to
I am thankful for having les as a coach and that has zero to do with his decision making. trust me........
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 11/30/13 at 12:37 pm to
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Les hasn't lost less than 2 games a year in his entire career.


Tell us how many coaches you know of who hasn't averaged losing two a year in their career.

Then, tell us how many SEC coaches you know who have gone undefeated in a SEC season.

LSU hadn't done it in 50 years before Miles.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67069 posts
Posted on 11/30/13 at 12:39 pm to
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is he the bad coach for letting a team like Arkansas almost win, or a great coach for inspiring his team to come from behind like that with a reserve qb and 2 reserve OL?


yes
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 11/30/13 at 12:41 pm to
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well what do you call one of our linemen getting called offsides 4 TIMES? I don't think I've seen anything like that before.



Michael Oher had 4 false starts Thursday night in the Ravens game.

Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10456 posts
Posted on 11/30/13 at 12:41 pm to
Les is the victim of a lot of overreaction both ways. He is lauded for his recruiting being amazing and then crucified for his lack of coaching that talent to titles.

Truth is that Les isn't near as amazing of a recruiter as people want to believe and not near as bad of an X's and O's coach as others think.

He's a good coach in a good situation that has helped him achieve very good success.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66445 posts
Posted on 11/30/13 at 12:42 pm to
i think people expect us to be such a talented team we never have highs or lows.
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