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re: Will Russell Shepard play or be surpassed by the new talent at WR????
Posted on 3/29/11 at 10:53 am to hemiroid
Posted on 3/29/11 at 10:53 am to hemiroid
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Will Russell Shepard play or be surpassed by the new talent at WR????
Yes, Wright is passing him up now and we have a true Freshman that is coming in that is better. That puts Shep at #4. I still think he get some PT though.
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Posted on 3/29/11 at 10:59 am to Teacher
Shep can be serviceable at everything and excel at nothing.
For someone who plays WR, he doesn't get separation, he can't block SEC DBs on running plays, and he drops passes even when they are well thrown. IMO, he'd already have been on the bench last year if we had landed Mike Davis and Justin Hunter.
FWIW, what the hell with the OP asking if he's going to be passed up by talent at WR, and then proceeding to defend him by listing his rushing statistics?
For someone who plays WR, he doesn't get separation, he can't block SEC DBs on running plays, and he drops passes even when they are well thrown. IMO, he'd already have been on the bench last year if we had landed Mike Davis and Justin Hunter.
FWIW, what the hell with the OP asking if he's going to be passed up by talent at WR, and then proceeding to defend him by listing his rushing statistics?
Posted on 3/29/11 at 11:27 am to Teacher
A lot of talk right now about great catches being made by Wright and Williams. And, yes, the youngster J. Landry could be the real deal and that will definitely throw some sh*t in the game.
Posted on 3/29/11 at 11:56 am to LuzianaFootball
It doesn't matter where he plays....just get the ball in his hands and he is better than anyone else on LSU's team at that point.
He doesn't lose yardage, he falls forward at all times, he has more speed and football speed than anyone else, and when the D knows he's coming, he still gets 6 yds per.
It's not his fault in regards to his size. It's the coaching staff's fault for not getting him the ball, PERIOD. He is at the mercy of the OC.
For sure he should be on every return team and IMO should touch the ball 10 times a game. If not, he will be wasted talent.
For anyone to come on the board and say a freshman or a rs freshman is better with the ball than him is simply MORONIC!
He doesn't lose yardage, he falls forward at all times, he has more speed and football speed than anyone else, and when the D knows he's coming, he still gets 6 yds per.
It's not his fault in regards to his size. It's the coaching staff's fault for not getting him the ball, PERIOD. He is at the mercy of the OC.
For sure he should be on every return team and IMO should touch the ball 10 times a game. If not, he will be wasted talent.
For anyone to come on the board and say a freshman or a rs freshman is better with the ball than him is simply MORONIC!
Posted on 3/29/11 at 12:12 pm to the LSUSaint
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the LSUSaint
You're right. We should just play Shep at all 11 positions for every snap. On BOTH sides of the ball.
Posted on 3/29/11 at 12:21 pm to chilge1
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You're right. We should just play Shep at all 11 positions for every snap. On BOTH sides of the ball.
Yeah that's exactly what I said....
Posted on 3/29/11 at 12:25 pm to A75CADDY
I'm afraid Shep is a bust, proving yet again that being really fast does not make you a good football player.
He is a poor receiver, poor quarterback, and poor running back. He's a triple threat that does three things poorly.
I think we can all agree that Shep should return kicks and punts, then get the hell out of Baton Rouge.
He is a poor receiver, poor quarterback, and poor running back. He's a triple threat that does three things poorly.
I think we can all agree that Shep should return kicks and punts, then get the hell out of Baton Rouge.
Posted on 3/29/11 at 12:27 pm to the LSUSaint
I've seen him get knocked backwards more than a few times, he's been chased down from behind, he can't get separation from DBs, despite all of his "football speed," that you claim he has. He doesn't have the hands to be a WR, at least not yet, and he's a liability in blocking on running plays.
He's a name and highly touted. But he hasn't done anything to live up to that hype. He hasn't done anything and he's been here for 2 years with significant P/T...
It's the way it is. Everyone wants to put the blame on Crowton for not being able to use him properly, and on Jefferson for not delivering consistent balls... but the fact is, Shep just isn't who we thought he was out of high school.
He's the Reggie Bush of LSU.
He's a name and highly touted. But he hasn't done anything to live up to that hype. He hasn't done anything and he's been here for 2 years with significant P/T...
It's the way it is. Everyone wants to put the blame on Crowton for not being able to use him properly, and on Jefferson for not delivering consistent balls... but the fact is, Shep just isn't who we thought he was out of high school.
He's the Reggie Bush of LSU.
Posted on 3/29/11 at 12:30 pm to the LSUSaint
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It's the coaching staff's fault for not getting him the ball, PERIOD. He is at the mercy of the OC.
Posted on 3/29/11 at 12:49 pm to Hitchcock
All I know is that it didn't take Josh Reed or Devery this long to adjust to WR. At some point, you have to ask yourself, will he ever get it?
He will get passed up by the younger WR eventually.
He will get passed up by the younger WR eventually.
This post was edited on 3/29/11 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 3/29/11 at 12:57 pm to sportsfan
He needs to be full time KR/PR and occasional WR/RB/Wildcat guy.
Posted on 3/29/11 at 1:03 pm to MrPackSix
He's gonna play but not much at WR
Posted on 3/29/11 at 1:19 pm to A75CADDY
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Shep dropped more passes than any other receiver.
Combine Shep's drops with LSU's limited number of pass attempts, and it is easy to see why his production was low.
However, when he get the ball, dude's got skills.
Posted on 3/29/11 at 1:40 pm to jrodLSUke
For as much as everyone is ripping on Shepard for drops the most memorable drops of this past year for me were:
1) RR before the half at the Alabama game dropped probably the most perfect deep balls JJ has ever thrown.
2) DP at Auburn dropped a third and long pass along the sideline that was on the money, and would have put us near the red zone. Instead, we punt.
2010 was laced with ugly receiver play stemming from who-knows-what combo of QB play, effort, skill, and frustration.
When I think of Shep 2010 i think of him cathching the ball at the line and picking 6-7 yards out of nothing. So what he got chased down by Mark Barron of Ala - that guy is a burner.
1) RR before the half at the Alabama game dropped probably the most perfect deep balls JJ has ever thrown.
2) DP at Auburn dropped a third and long pass along the sideline that was on the money, and would have put us near the red zone. Instead, we punt.
2010 was laced with ugly receiver play stemming from who-knows-what combo of QB play, effort, skill, and frustration.
When I think of Shep 2010 i think of him cathching the ball at the line and picking 6-7 yards out of nothing. So what he got chased down by Mark Barron of Ala - that guy is a burner.
Posted on 3/29/11 at 1:47 pm to hemiroid
I really hope he plays and developes as a talent. He could have gone anywhere, and he chose LSU. I want the very best for him.
Posted on 3/29/11 at 1:49 pm to hemiroid
duplicate post.
This post was edited on 3/29/11 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 3/29/11 at 1:59 pm to MrPackSix
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He needs to be full time KR/PR
With his lack of hands? KR maybe they don't fumble as much, but PR, hell no.
Posted on 3/29/11 at 5:33 pm to Teacher
Shepard had fewer drops than AJ Green!!! Believe it. Again I refer back to his stats. Freshman year highest YPC and sophomore 2nd highest. He wasn't any worse than our other recievers last year. I refer to his rushing stats because I don't believe we had any type of passing offense last year. Shepard is our most elusive runner "besides Gore because he is unknown is SEC play" on the team. I have seen Shepard throw good blocks. He is one of our quickest guys on the team; yes Barron caught him, but he had a good angle on him and less distance to run. Also on that tackle Barron almost dislocated his arm stretching for Shep. The reason for my question referring to WR is because that is where he would get most of his playing time. I love me some Shep, but whoever would make the biggest impact/best player should start.
Posted on 3/29/11 at 5:49 pm to hemiroid
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Shepard had fewer drops than AJ Green!!! Believe it.
Want to compare # of drops vs. number of times targeted?
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Again I refer back to his stats. Freshman year highest YPC and sophomore 2nd highest.
Rushing stats don't mean shite for a WR.
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He wasn't any worse than our other recievers last year.
He was worse than Toliver, he was worse than Randle, and nobody else got the PT that he did.
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I refer to his rushing stats because I don't believe we had any type of passing offense last year.
So from your perspective, his claim to excellence is > 250 yds rushing for the season?
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Shepard is our most elusive runner "besides Gore because he is unknown is SEC play" on the team.
Wrong. Spencer Ware can make some people miss. I saw quite a few broken ankles from aTm.
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I have seen Shepard throw good blocks.
I have seen far more cases where a play was destroyed because he couldn't hold his man.
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He is one of our quickest guys on the team; yes Barron caught him, but he had a good angle on him and less distance to run. Also on that tackle Barron almost dislocated his arm stretching for Shep.
And you're citing one play. He frequently can't outrun a DB in coverage.
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The reason for my question referring to WR is because that is where he would get most of his playing time. I love me some Shep, but whoever would make the biggest impact/best player should start.
Shep is a great ambassador for LSU, but he's not one of our top 3 options at either QB, RB, or WR.
Posted on 3/29/11 at 5:59 pm to chilge1
Chilge1 your Sir or Miss are an idiot. You couldn't see talent if it hit you in the face. If Shep doesn't contribute offensively more than last year then I will start a thread and apologise to you! But if he does then I would like you to do the same, if you aren't too scared. I think he will be one of most impactful offensive players in 2011. 
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