re: Will LSU Baseball have a star player next season?

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do we have a proven star returning

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This is obvious and doesn’t require a thread. Of course we don’t. But then I guess it didn’t seem so obvious to some…

I asked the question and the only real response I got was not why someone felt we would have a star. Most answers I got were people basically saying Milan was already one and trying to qualify why he was. Oh how our standards have fallen at LSU

Of course someone can emerge, that’s probable or even likely. But we are not entering 2025 right now with a known commodity. Like Tommy — he wakes up out of bed hitting .335 with 20+ bombs. Duplantis was going to roll out of bed and give you 90 hits and bat .320 to set the table for your offense. We don’t have that guy right now. Will he emerge? I’ve said it’s probably or even likely. But my point has been consistent that we don’t have that guy on the roster heading into 2025, as of now.

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What’s a star?

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Jesus. Once again, a player we can count on at LSU to have high level production in the heart of the batting order or weekend rotation. It’s that simple. MLB stock is irreverent, just like the recruiting ranking in high school before they came to LSU is irrelevant. This is about high level production you can count on.

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he didn’t his any before April 19th

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You’re right. He didn’t hit them against the better teams we played. He hit them against Missouri, Auburn, nicholls, bama, UGA, South Carolina, wofford

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he became a consistently better and better player.

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Again, nobody contested this. I even said this much Just don’t sell to me that he’s a star right now.

Yes. We will have two All Americans. Shut up

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do we have a star player next year” allows for projection

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Then let’s project them all. If you got an LSU scolly it’s plausible to say they have the ability. So let’s say we have 35 star players next season. Sure

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We don’t have a returning star” is just a statement of fact (if Herring and jones both leave)

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Agree, but that also depends on portal additions to come. Jay has signed at least one star player out of the Portal every year he’s been at LSU up until now. Will he do it this offseason? He hasn’t as of yet.

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That’s not a star.

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Then Milam and his 8 dingers definitely is not

Started and batted in the heart of the order for 4 straight years at LSU with all conference level production and is the standard bearer for career Hits at the best program in college baseball. Just ho hum stuff lol

if you wanna hold up Tommy White as an example they don’t live on the same planet.

False. Just because you either hit a HR or strike out doesn’t mean it’s what qualifies as a good player. I don’t care what your new age baseball approach is. Duplantis created pressure on the base paths, was a plus defense etc etc for 4 years. Don’t undermine his career at LSU because he didn’t hit bombs and the new age guys don’t think his OPS was high enough. Values and trends change with the times.

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Then let’s project them all. If you got an LSU scolly it’s plausible to say they have the ability. So let’s say we have 35 star players next season. Sure

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Lame troll shite

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Agree, but that also depends on portal additions to come. Jay has signed at least one star player out of the Portal every year he’s been at LSU up until now. Will he do it this offseason? He hasn’t as of yet.

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unless one of the guys comes in and is a star. Jump definitly was more potential than Production coming into the season.

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Then Milam and his 8 dingers definitely is not

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No but the version of Milam who his 8 HR over the last 28 games of the season looks like he definitely could be. And while you keep saying “oh those were weak teams” they were all better teams than who we played in OOC and he wasn’t hitting cheap home runs then.

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Started and batted in the heart of the order for 4 straight years at LSU with all conference level production and is the standard bearer for career Hits at the best program in college baseball. Just ho hum stuff lol

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He didn’t have all conference level production for 4 years. He was Second team all conference 1 time.

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False. Just because you either hit a HR or strike out doesn’t mean it’s what qualifies as a good player.

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He had a better career BA too. A better Ob%. He averaged more hits per season. He averaged more runs per season.

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Lame troll shite

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Not far off from your logic on Milam

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unless one of the guys comes in and is a star. Jump definitly was more potential than Production coming into the season.

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Let’s talk without any confusion here:

LSU has no current proven star players you can count on for a high level of production in 2025 (provided Herring and Jones leave).

If Jay were to bring in a Berry, White, Holman level player out of the portal — like he has been doing every year up to this point — then that type of player would instantly become the most proven high level player on the roster.

If he fails to do it this offseason, then we will go into 2025 without one.

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Not far off from your logic on Milam

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it’s pretty much the opposite logic. There is obviously a difference between saying “anyone on this team can be a star” and “the freshmen all american who was red hot the second half the season and progressively got better all year can be a star”

If milan plays like he did the second half he’s a 2nd team all SEC player at a minimum.

I think that’s fair enough, but again, if the question is “when is the last time we’ve gone into a season without a proven star”

A lot of years qualify.

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Not really. Somebody had to be freshman all American 2B. Pompey from Texas Tech was other option and he batted .274 I would go as far to say that Larsons season wasn’t far off from Milam’s. He just didn’t finish as strongly

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You would go that far to make a point but it’s not a good one.

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Ahh more Ifs…

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Nothing is guaranteed.

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So now that you’ve said it, let’s turn to Jay in context of this discussion. Remember, this is the same guy people here tried to say was the best coach in college baseball. 3 years in, it will 100% be his roster now heading into year 4. A guy people say is a recruiting master and hitting guru. So, I again ask, where are the stars?

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this happens all the time. It happened to Paul all the time.

And then someone emerges.

we’ve gotten to your main point which is “OMG How did Jay let the team get like this OM would never”

PM did.

He let the team get like this a lot especially at the end.

And by “this” I mean going into a season with no surefire all american but lots of talent.

again, there were not returning all conference players in 2018, 2019, 2020 or 2021.

Hell who was our star going into 2011?

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From 2019 onward I agree it showed his best was behind him. I also believe Jay doesn’t win a natty without some of Paul’s stars.

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And PM doesn't win a Natty without all the guys Jay brought in.

Sick of fricks like you that refuse to give Jay credit. A ton of the guys he brought in also contributed to that Natty.

Riley Cooper alone could have been MVP of the CWS.

Also, Jay went to Omaha twice within a short period of time at Arizona. He played in the CWS championship game at Arizona and you question him because you don't think he has stars.

He has won everywhere he has been including LSU.

What he did in his first year at LSU without a star pitcher was more impressive than the championship season. He won 17 SEC games without a legit SEC starter.

Name me all the college baseball coaches who have played for a CWS championship 2xs in the past 10 years.

Here's an easier one, but still an elite list. Name me how many coaches have been to Omaha 3x's in the past 10 years.

You say you like Jay, but clearly you don't. Otherwise you would see he is a winner.

What he did in his first season after joining LSU and not having a legit SEC caliber starting pitcher was absolutely remarkable. 40 wins, 17 SEC wins. He likely won't ever have as weak of a starting rotation as that.

This past season he lost too many bats to overcome. I always had that concern for this past season, but at least they didn't give up. In a down season they were still 2 outs away from hosting a Super Regional. In a down season. And you still want to come in here and act like a pathetic fan.