re: Why You Can't "Stack the Box" vs. Auburn (with graphics/pics)

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Also want to add, Newton has beat the blitz all year long. He's made a lot of teams pay that blitz.

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bullshite

The team that blitzed him the most this season held him to 17 points and less than 200 yards total.

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But either way, going man-to-man on the 4 WRs while bringing pressure off the corner would be better than either what I wrote above, or what LSU did.

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yeah just play 4 man against the 4 WRS, have the DL clog up the middle, have the SS on the RB-run side and your WLB on the QB-run side, with the MLB spying the QB

you even have a deep FS in that scenario

and i'm wondering where the multiple WRs would be open

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Absolutely false. Teams beat the spread with LB play. Any fool should recognize that.

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Eh... not really.

Obviously the play of the front 7 is important, but the spread option is just like the classic option in that the best way to defense it is by forcing the issue.

Option offenses want you to make choices. The best way to eliminate that is by eliminating their ability to make you make choices: penetration.

We failed to do that with our front 4.

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Again, I'll take evidence. If someone wants to show me a defense that "stacked the box" against a 4 WR, 5 OL, single back set, I'll eat crow.

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This offense can be stopped with the exact defensive set LSU went with. In fact it can even be made to look bad and be extremely ineffective. But with a player like Newton, you cannot play contain and read. You have to attack it. Get to him BEFORE he makes his read. We didn't....we lost.

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That was pre-Newton explosion.

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there was a reason he didn't explode

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there was a reason he didn't explode

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It was his 2nd game of the season.

His first against anyone of note...

Dan, you've done a nice breakdown. The folks that want to blame coaching, and scheme won't be swayed. You can't stack the box vs. 3 and 4 wide, AND when the QB is also a 6-6 250 TB, it becomes a numbers game that switches from advantage Defense, to advantage Offense. The only way to even come close to evening the numbers, is to walk a safety down, and play man free. That's a dangerous game to play...Cam can throw too.

Here's a bit I did on an Auburn site, which is where I saw what you've done here, and liked it.

The same play scored twice for us on Saturday. We're making our living off this play, and variations of it. We run it from different looks, and we can shift and motion, and they can audible which side they want to run it to based on the Def. alignment. Most times it's a read, sometimes it's straight give. Dyer ran one for a good gain off the straight "Power O", but Cam's "Heisman Moment" and McCaleb's long TD run were the same read play. Cam makes it go...the play calling during the whole game makes it go, and it's a "pick your poison" type deal for the defense. Instead of the normal backside read on the Zone Read, it's a frontside read of the DE, and they may still block him as well as read him. The only thing that really changes on the straight give "Power O" play, and the read option is how they deal with the DE on the front side, and the flow of the backs. On the Power O, they simply "kick him" with the F.

Cam's "Heisman Run". LSU looked to be in a hard Cover 2 here, but I'm not great at reading Defenses. Eric Smith is the F (I guess they call him H-Back), and Fannin is the H. I don't know if Smith is supposed to influence the DE or not, but he clearly avoided blocking him, and turned upfield after he went around him. The frontside DE is the read, and he comes upfield...that's a "keep read" for Cam. I would guess that Fannin is supposed to carry out a fake sweep around the end, but in this play, the DE was right in his path, so Mario cut it up field after the ball was pulled, and delivered a nice block that helped the run go. The pulling G, Isom, pulls up through the hole, and looks for the first LB he can find.



Ontario's "seal the deal" run. Same play, different look. LSU appears to be in a Cover 4 this play, but I can't see the S or the CB to the trips side. This time we're in Trips Left, and the F is Emory Blake. He gets enough of a block on the LB or DB ("W" whichever it is), Burns gets a decent enough block, as does the outermost WR (I can't tell who it was from the video), the Free Safety whiffed his tackle attempt at the point of attack, and Peterson couldn't run him down in time. This time, though the DE, I'm sure because of the adjustments LSU made to slow Cam, executes a "block down/step down" move...to fill the hole left by Ziemba blocking down, and instead of the pulling G, Isom, going up field, he simply blocks the DE with a log lock, and it doesn't even have to be a devastating block as there's no way that DE can reverse field to catch McCaleb. That DE stepping down is a "give read" for Cam, and with speed man Ontario McCaleb at the H, it's lights out for the LSU defense. This play was set up by Cam pounding up the middle all day on the same type of play, and it was executed with a good read by Cam, and good blocking by our WR corp.




You can see them both here: LINK

Cam's at the :10sec mark, and McCaleb's at the :38sec mark.

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That was pre-Newton explosion.

And he still put up 206 total yards on them.

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you're right but he didn't do anything special on the ground or air. 70 yards on 3.9 YPC is mediocre, and passing wise he didn't do shite save for a long pass to Blake.

there was a reason he didn't explode then. State kept at him from all angles and let the LBs do work for the most part as the DL got a good push. if the tackling was a bit better in that game Newton probably doesn't even break over 3 YPC.

You're giving OSU way too much credit for shutting down Oregon last season (which Boise did also, by the way).

2 years ago vs. Illinois: 455 yards, 20 points
2 years ago vs. Texas: 468 yards, 24 points
3 years ago vs. Illinois: 400 yards, 28 points


They've routinely been roasted by spread option teams... and their fans will tell you that.