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re: Why the Gray hate?

Posted on 1/17/15 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
14930 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 2:04 pm to
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His gotee stands for GO TURNOVER.


Hmmm...interesting
This post was edited on 1/17/15 at 2:05 pm
Posted by LSUzealot
Napoleon and Magazine
Member since Sep 2003
57656 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 2:10 pm to
9 points on 11 shots.
He also created way more than 4 turnovers. Just like Mickey almost always has a block or 2 more than he gets credit for.

Yes his play was brutal today.
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
14930 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 2:20 pm to
My bad, forgot 12 points on 15 shots and 3 free throw attempts is better.

Even more :lol: :lol: at you thinking Martin will be a superstar in the nba
Posted by MT555
BR
Member since Feb 2009
1664 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 3:01 pm to
We always pick out a whipping boy and then go with it the whole year. The dude is never going to make anyone happy on this board. LSUbutt brings up a ton of good points. The whole team played awful in 2nd half..
Posted by TheTruth14
Member since Dec 2014
159 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 3:22 pm to
How about that wide open lay up Martin missed. Don't blame Gray for this game.
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8167 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 3:25 pm to
Gray needs to calm down a little and JJ needs to call a timeout when the team is playing lazily instead of waiting until we lose the lead entirely.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 3:52 pm to
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Let's talk about 1/13 from 3 in the 2nd half. What can CJJ do, take the players out?

Uhh, how about he does what coaches are supposed to do and make adjustments?

For the last 10+ minutes of the game, A&M ran a zone because they knew we couldn't make a 3. They doubled Martin and Mickey every time they touched the ball and forced us to take 3s. What did our coaches do to adjust? Nothing. I can understand that its frustrating to watch our guards miss open 3s, but if you're a coach and you see that it isn't working you have to change something.

Its pretty simple for us in close games, we have to get Martin and Mickey the ball in crunch time. And that ultimately falls on the head coach when we fail to do so.
Posted by LSUzealot
Napoleon and Magazine
Member since Sep 2003
57656 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 4:01 pm to
Superstar? No, But certainly an all-star. He just has to dramatically improve his basketball iq which I think he can do that playing against NBA talent. #hegone
Posted by SofaKingTrill
Member since Mar 2008
6847 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 4:04 pm to
Gray turns the balls over by getting off the floor and trying to pass the ball or trying to drive to the rim more than anyone I've ever seen
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45073 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 4:18 pm to
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9 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assists, 4 turnovers. Yea, he didn't play great but how is that "brutal"? So how was Martin's game since it was almost the same stat line except with more points on 33% shooting


Clearly you don't watch the game or understand basketball. He got his shot "blocked" 3-4 times on jump passes which are turnovers that don't go in the stat sheet.

He is the PG of the team and it is his job to control tempo. He doesn't when it is crunch time. He can't put people in the right positions nor Makena the right decisions in crunch time.
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 4:19 pm to
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The dude is never going to make anyone happy on this board.


Not true at all. Go back and look at the posts after the Ole Miss game. It was almost unanimous that Gray's play was the difference. I was hoping for a repeat but he reverted back to his former play almost from the start of the game, and it got worse the longer we played. He makes boneheaded decisions too often to be a point guard.
He has the physical tools just hasn't raised his game consistently to winning basketball.
Posted by SofaKingTrill
Member since Mar 2008
6847 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 4:23 pm to
The whole team did play like shite to close out the game. Long periods without scoring a thing and constantly turning the ball over, while Texas A&M would drive straight to the basket and get an easy lay up
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
14930 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

No, But certainly an all-star


That is truly unbelievable. I cannot believe people actually think this. There is zero reason for him to leave this year. He won't even get drafted unless he MAJORLY improves his season. In 3 out of 4 SEC games he's barely been existent
Posted by Tigertown
Mandeville
Member since Aug 2004
467 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 4:27 pm to
I've noticed Gray has a propensity to drive the lane into a double team and then leave his feet, with little chance for a decent shot. He then tries to just throw out to someone with the 2 taller players draped over him, which usually leads to a turnover. This needs to stop. As someone already mentioned, He's not in JC anymore.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70945 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 4:31 pm to
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but at least he was trying.


What are you, his mother?
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
14930 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 4:38 pm to
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What are you, his mother?


Because you take part of a sentence and try to change my words? We need dribble penetration on this team, plain and simple. Gray is the only one who effectively gets into the lane almost whenever he wants to. I've also said his main problem is when he gets into the lane he turns it over or cant finish. But he also has had moments when he's been spectacular when getting into the lane.
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28630 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 5:07 pm to
Gray was a shite show today. Continually drives into the defense, out of control, and turns the ball over or takes an I'll advised shot. So frustrating to watch the same shite over and over from him.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 5:08 pm to
Gray is the Tack Minor of this team.
Posted by PurpleCrush
Atlanta
Member since May 2014
602 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 5:15 pm to
Got interested in LSU BBall again because of him!

Especially enjoyed seeing CJAMR & DB today too.

Yes, we should have won, but much more competitive lately & fun to watch again.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14544 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 6:48 pm to
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Why the Gray hate?


As good as he was against Ole Piss, he reverted back today. Almost as if he decided it was time to get his.

CJJ takes him out after the charge and he sulked on the bench refusing a hand shake from Malone, then CJJ rewards that by putting him back in and basibally putting the game in his hands, and surprise...he turns it over.

He'll help us in some games later I'm sure, but too many games like this from him to this point. We need better from him to get this team where it should be.
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