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Why the Defense is bad by the numbers
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:57 am
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:57 am
Matt House hired Dec21 2021
Reading this, keep in mind they’ve had one full recruiting class with their own guys. After taking over a team with less than 40 scholarship players.
2022 Defense by Snap Count
-6 DBs lost out of your top 15
- your best pass rusher & LB
2021 defense by Snap Countl
- basically no players left from that defense. These would be your Jr & Srs
Brian Kelly talked about needing another year. Honestly, you might need 2 more cycles.
I love what the transfer portal can bring but it’s wishful thinking rebuilding quickly with that
Reading this, keep in mind they’ve had one full recruiting class with their own guys. After taking over a team with less than 40 scholarship players.
2022 Defense by Snap Count
-6 DBs lost out of your top 15
- your best pass rusher & LB
2021 defense by Snap Countl
- basically no players left from that defense. These would be your Jr & Srs
Brian Kelly talked about needing another year. Honestly, you might need 2 more cycles.
I love what the transfer portal can bring but it’s wishful thinking rebuilding quickly with that
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Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:58 am to Lester Earl
They’re learning on the job. Good news is I don’t think it can get any worse than what they did against Ole Miss.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:59 am to Lester Earl
DB depth stretched
Hopefully Welch and Stamps keep evolving
Hopefully Welch and Stamps keep evolving
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:02 am to Honest Tune
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I don’t think it can get any worse than what they did against Ole Miss.
Dammit. You had to go and say it out loud, did t you?
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:06 am to Lester Earl
I thought I realized the amount of attrition but this is eye opening.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:06 am to S
Ya if they don’t have DBs starting to emerge next year, then let’s panic.
Even then it’s still kind of early. DB development is a 3rd year position but it kinda is what it is at this point. These guys will get experience by fire
Even then it’s still kind of early. DB development is a 3rd year position but it kinda is what it is at this point. These guys will get experience by fire
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:08 am to Lester Earl
Yeah, to me they should just let guys like Perkins and Weeks play super-aggressive on clear passing downs and try to cause sack & strips like we did late in the Missouri game because we're normally getting burned with our holes in the secondary even when we don't play aggressive.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:08 am to tigerforever7
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I thought I realized the amount of attrition but this is eye opening.
Yea. Even this defense with
Demario Tolan
Dwight mcGlorthern
Jordan Toles
Would be so much better
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:13 am to Lester Earl
Meh. Lack of personnel could excuse us being ranked in the 60s or 70s. Not the 120s. House has enough pieces to not field—by far—the worst P5 defense in the country. And one of the worst in LSU history. He can get right the frick out after the A&M game (or the SECCG if we make it again by some miracle).
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:14 am to Lester Earl
What would this look like for a competent year, say, from 2018 to 2019?
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:16 am to Lester Earl
There has absolutely been a lot of attrition. No one will dispute that. But the front 7 should not be as bad as they are. That's on the staff.
Even with the personnel losses you can't tell me this group is far less talented that teams like: Nebraska, West Virginia, Michigan St., Syracuse, etc. Yet, they are playing FAR worse than any of those units. If this defense is as good as, say, Purdue, LSU is currently 5-1 with 5 double-digit wins.
That is the frustration. Not that the defense is struggling. That was somewhat expected. But that they have been atrocious. That's not ALL personnel deficiencies.
Even with the personnel losses you can't tell me this group is far less talented that teams like: Nebraska, West Virginia, Michigan St., Syracuse, etc. Yet, they are playing FAR worse than any of those units. If this defense is as good as, say, Purdue, LSU is currently 5-1 with 5 double-digit wins.
That is the frustration. Not that the defense is struggling. That was somewhat expected. But that they have been atrocious. That's not ALL personnel deficiencies.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:16 am to Lester Earl
That is very eye opening information.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:20 am to Lester Earl
Don’t forget Landon Jackson at DE
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:21 am to Hot Carl
quote:
Lack of personnel could excuse us being ranked in the 60s or 70s. Not the 120s.
14 of the top 25 snap getters were not even on the team last season.
6 of these guys are Freshmen
There have been a ton of moving parts with very little older, talented players.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:23 am to banone74
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Don’t forget Landon Jackson at DE
For sure!
Never officially took a snap at LSU so didn’t pop up here
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:25 am to Alt26
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Even with the personnel losses you can't tell me this group is far less talented that teams like: Nebraska, West Virginia, Michigan St., Syracuse, etc. Yet, they are playing FAR worse than any of those units
That’s a blind statement with too many variables to say with any type of factuality
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:28 am to Hot Carl
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Hot Carl
Meh. Lack of personnel could excuse us being ranked in the 60s or 70s. Not the 120s. House has enough pieces to not field—by far—the worst P5 defense in the country. And one of the worst in LSU history. He can get right the frick out after the A&M game (or the SECCG if we make it again by some miracle).
They definitely have a lack of personnel but the way house uses his players is maddening.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:38 am to Lester Earl
On paper our defense this year should be so much better than 2021. That list of players somehow held Bama to 20 points and 6 rushing yards. Our defense this year couldn’t dream about those kind of stats unless we played Mississippi St every game.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:45 am to lsudave1
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On paper our defense this year should be so much better than 2021
Huh
I’m listening
Damone Clark
Jay Ward
Bj Ojulari
Cordale Flott
Jacquelin Roy
Neil farrell
Eli ricks
Are all playing in the NFL rn now
4 of the top 5 guys getting snaps on this team are below average players
Major burns
Greg Penn
Andre Sam
Harold Perkins
Zy Alexander
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:50 am to Lester Earl
Toles is just a warm body, but I'm beginning to think you're right that even he would be an improvement over some of the guys getting snaps at safety right now.
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