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re: Why such a weak non conference schedule in Baseball?

Posted on 2/22/12 at 10:08 pm to
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 2/22/12 at 10:08 pm to
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Why are you even reading my posts if they suck so bad?

It's like watching a car wreck. I want to look away but just can't.

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I love PM where do you get off saying in critical of him

Writing that PM is "scared" to schedule, blah, blah, blah.....seems critical to me. LSU plays a schedule to maximize home games. We play Notre Dame and Michigan twice each this season just before we begin SEC play plus we play S. Miss. at the Wally Pontiff game so your entire premise is flawed.

Don't let facts get in the way of your dumb opinions.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/22/12 at 10:34 pm to
Posted by sportsaddit68
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 12:32 am to
I think a lot of the problem with our fanbase, and the rest of the nations, is the fact that they go by the football scale of who is good and not the baseball scale. For instance, Stetson. A lot of us know they have a great team year in and year out. But to the general population complaining about teams playing bad schedules forget your Stetsons and Coastal Carolina (of whom I would enjoy seeing down here again). We Do not have to play Texas and Stanford in baseball. Our SEC is a killer and we play some decent quality teams from the North who would suck us dry under our many concession stand counters just for a game down south without 10 inches of snow.

Kansas and Illinois are not great teams at all in Baseball. We lost to them 2 out of 3 in those 2 years we played them. Illinois one year and Kansas the next. Hell, SLU has beaten us a few years we won it all. I guess the point I am trying to make is in Baseball, anything can happen. It is less likely for the 0-16 Detroit Lions team to beat the 16-0 New England Patriots than the New York Yankees losing to the Kansas City Royals. In fact, Royals tend to do well against the Yankees even though they couldn't win a College Title most years.
Posted by berndawg17
LA
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 12:39 am to
Guys can we keep complaining or is it time for us to get a life?
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 1:16 am to
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Last year was decent with CSF,



and it still got us.. NO WHERE.. so what's the use..

Posted by TigerCub
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Member since May 2006
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 9:16 am to
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UCF, HOU, UAB, Stetson all generally solid teams year to year


And I'd we willing to bet that all of those schools with possibly the exception of UAB would want a return trip. That's not going to happen with the new stadium. In fact, we have traveled to all 3 of those schools since 2004.
Posted by zip25
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 10:36 am to
Nola was only inserted because D.J.'s defensive deficiencies were really hurting the team. Nola's was not inserted because of his bat (in fact, he had the worst average on the team)

Can't blame PM for not making that change sooner...a knee-jerk reaction to moving your veteran SS (who's been starting since his freshman year) would be ridiculous
This post was edited on 2/23/12 at 10:43 am
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 10:47 am to
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Can't blame PM for not making that change sooner...a knee-jerk reaction to moving your veteran SS (who's been starting since his freshman year) would be ridiculous


I agree 100%.
Posted by OneMoreTime
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 10:50 am to
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Notre Dame and Michigan
These teams aren't good, fwiw.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 11:13 am to
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a knee-jerk reaction to moving your veteran SS (who's been starting since his freshman year) would be ridiculous


he was a sophomore that year with 1 year experience. Hardly what would call a veteran.

Nola obviously had a good glove. Could have started at 2B from the outset and had Schimpf in the OF like what ended up happening.

Im not saying it was the wrong move. I am just wondering why it took so long to recognize Nola and Mahtook were studs as freshman.


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Nola was only inserted because D.J.'s defensive deficiencies were really hurting the team. Nola's was not inserted because of his bat (in fact, he had the worst average on the team)


No one said he was inserted for hit bat
Posted by bbap
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 11:17 am to
i wish the schedule was stronger myself. Notre Dame and Michigan are cupcakes.
Posted by josh336
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 11:20 am to
That would've meant sitting Leon Landry at the start of the year, which wouldn't have been a great idea because he started out on fire and belted like 8 homers in the first month or something like that. And Schimpf wasn't the problem, it was Lemahieu's arm.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 11:28 am to
he could have sat chad jones/mcgehee/nick pontiff/helenihi or whoever was getting starts in the OF opposite of landry and jared mitchell at that time.


didnt have to be landry


and i never said Schimpf was the problem. But he became the player that was flexible enough for us to maximize the talent on the field by letting DJ move to 2B to open up SS for Nola
This post was edited on 2/23/12 at 11:29 am
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 12:16 pm to
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it was Lemahieu's arm


According to Lester back then, DJ had a great arm. Remember those "discussions" back then Lester? To be accurate, it was not entirely his arm strength--some of the problem was that it took him longer to "uncoil" and get the ball on its way.
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 12:20 pm to
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some of the problem was that it took him longer to "uncoil" and get the ball on its way.

probably a small part of the problem
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 12:22 pm to
Think it was Helenihi, who was a senior, could've sat him, but he probably when with seniority there. Made the change mid season, it worked out.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 12:28 pm to
i always maintained he has a long release, but that his arm was very strong.

i mean he has started games in the MLB at 3rd base. That says enough.


and i dont think he was moved from SS because of his arm. But my memory is so year to year on some things. I thought his range tailed off from what it was his FR year and they weren't turning double plays. But i could be wrong.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 12:32 pm to
looking back at the box scores, Chad JOnes was the opening day starter in the OF and started at least the 1st 2 weekend series(6 starts). Helenihi got a few starts in the OF(7), as well as Nick Pontiff(8), Blake Dean(15) and Chris McGehee(3)..


really, forget the point about Nola moving to SS. Why wasn't Mahtook playing?
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 12:32 pm to
They def weren't turning double plays
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 12:36 pm to
Yea, I am with you on the memory. I am old and the seasons all run together. I think the reason Mainieri gave at the time was the lack of double plays. I love baseball.
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