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re: Why not Johnny Jones?
Posted on 4/12/12 at 11:17 am to TigerStripes06
Posted on 4/12/12 at 11:17 am to TigerStripes06
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Does that seem like a guy that warrants a $1.5 million contract?
I am sure about one thing. If we hire Jones it for damn sure wont be for 1.5.
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Posted on 4/12/12 at 11:17 am to Adam Banks
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He won 20 games 5 out of the last 6 years. We have only won 20 games 5 times since 1993. He won the conference tourney twice and regular season once. UNT sucked hard before he got there. Hes not a earth shaking hire but he doesnt have a "terrible record as UNTs coach"
This. Plus its harder to sell UNT. If he could recruit at LSU 20 years ago thats a better comparison to LSU now. So if he can recruit that then I say he could recruit it now.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 11:18 am to Adam Banks
South Carolina has hired Frank Martin, has made a COMMITMENT to winning in basketball, or at least trying.
You telling me, all LSU can do HIRE JOHNNY JONES?!
LSU is not a better AD than South Carolina?
You telling me, all LSU can do HIRE JOHNNY JONES?!
LSU is not a better AD than South Carolina?
Posted on 4/12/12 at 11:18 am to TigerStripes06
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Jones is 190-146 with a 91-88 record in the Sun Belt after 11 seasons at North Texas. He was 15-16 as the interim coach at Memphis in 1999-2000
I was about to post these statistics as well. In 11 seasons at North Texas he has won the Sun Belt Conference tournament championship twice and finished first in the regular season once.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 11:20 am to SofaKingTrill
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Jones is 190-146 with a 91-88 record in the Sun Belt after 11 seasons at North Texas.
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I was about to post these statistics as well.
Context and trends my friend. Context and trends...
Posted on 4/12/12 at 11:22 am to SofaKingTrill
since when are coaches supposed to come to north texas and automatically start winning? it took him 5 years, but they became a consistant winner. it will not take that long at lsu. he's had at least 20 wins in 5 of the past 6 seasons at north texas. the school has 8 all time.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 11:24 am to Adam Banks
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Context and trends my friend. Context and trends...
So i should think outside of the box about how Johnny Jones is a great coach at UNT because this is a "trending topic"? lol, alright dude, i'm not here to argue with you. I just don't believe base on his record and statistics that he is the coach to bring glory back to LSU basketball. If what we prefer is a middle of the pack SEC basketball team for 11 seasons, then by all means, Jones is your man.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 11:30 am to LoyalTiger
Fluck Jones, I don't want 5 more years of BS Losing, Its time to win, Hire Jones you quit on the basketball program and LSU.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 11:31 am to SofaKingTrill
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o i should think outside of the box about how Johnny Jones is a great coach at UNT because this is a "trending topic"
You should look at the context of the situation he entered UNT-they sucked. Their previous coach had never won more than 7 games and averaged 5 wins a season (context). Jones got them to middle of the road .500 right off the bat and then once he got the program built he reeled off 5 straight 20 win seasons in the last 6 years (trends)
This post was edited on 4/12/12 at 11:40 am
Posted on 4/12/12 at 11:32 am to filmmaker45
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South Carolina has hired Frank Martin, has made a COMMITMENT to winning in basketball, or at least trying.
You telling me, all LSU can do HIRE JOHNNY JONES?!
LSU is not a better AD than South Carolina?
Posted on 4/12/12 at 11:33 am to LoyalTiger
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The man got North Texas to the tourney. TWICE. Thats amazing all by itself. OP i will tell why you why they dont Jones. These posters dont know shite about bball. LSU cant just walk in an take a coach from anywhere like in football. Getting Trent Johnson from Stanford was amazing but know i see wasnt good and chases money. Give Jones a break. And for all you Scott Drew fans, he coached at Valpo before going to Baylor and he seems to be winning big now. Dixon was an assis. coach at Pitt for years before he got the head coach gig. He has now turned his self and the program into a powerful name.
The man got North Texas to the tourney. TWICE. Thats amazing all by itself. OP i will tell why you why they dont Jones. These posters dont know shite about bball. LSU cant just walk in an take a coach from anywhere like in football. Getting Trent Johnson from Stanford was amazing but know i see wasnt good and chases money. Give Jones a break. And for all you Scott Drew fans, he coached at Valpo before going to Baylor and he seems to be winning big now. Dixon was an assis. coach at Pitt for years before he got the head coach gig. He has now turned his self and the program into a powerful name.
This post was edited on 4/12/12 at 11:47 am
Posted on 4/12/12 at 11:39 am to Adam Banks
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o i should think outside of the box about how Johnny Jones is a great coach at UNT because this is a "trending topic"
You should look at the context of the situation he entered UNT-they sucked. Their previous coach had never won more than 7 games and averaged 5 wins a season (context). Jones got them to middle of the .500 right off the bat and then once he got the program built he reeled off 5 straight 20 win seasons in the last 6 years (trends)
after thinking about the post more clearly i figured that this is what you meant by context and trends. I understand that UNT isn't a top tier program and that it probably took a lot of time and effort into building the program at the school. I still do not see that translating to the SEC and LSU. this is just my opinion and what I believe. I don't expect everyone else to feel the same way
and the situation these Sun Belt schools are in generally is pretty bad, so doing great in the conference isn't a miracle. Like i said just my opinion.
This post was edited on 4/12/12 at 11:45 am
Posted on 4/12/12 at 11:42 am to TigerBait2008
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Fluck Jones, I don't want 5 more years of BS Losing, Its time to win, Hire Jones you quit on the basketball program and LSU.
Big time coaches all got their first shot somewhere.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 11:47 am to Mickey Goldmill
Jones is not a great coach, and not even the best hire LSU could make right now.
But at worst, it seems like he would be a below average hire. If he can recruit, honestly, that's all he really has to do to win here. John Brady's 06 Final Four can attest to that.
If you can recruit, you can win at LSU. So, can Jones (cleanly) recruit for LSU (with no threat of sanctions)?
But at worst, it seems like he would be a below average hire. If he can recruit, honestly, that's all he really has to do to win here. John Brady's 06 Final Four can attest to that.
If you can recruit, you can win at LSU. So, can Jones (cleanly) recruit for LSU (with no threat of sanctions)?
Posted on 4/12/12 at 11:53 am to LoyalTiger
LSU hiring Jones would feel a bit like Bama hiring Mike Shula. Settling for someone because you know he'll come.
I actually think Johnny is a good fall-back candidate, and hopefully that's what he is to Alleva, since he at least seems to be trying to get someone else. Then again, maybe he's just flying to various airports so that we all think he's putting in the work before hiring Jones.
I actually think Johnny is a good fall-back candidate, and hopefully that's what he is to Alleva, since he at least seems to be trying to get someone else. Then again, maybe he's just flying to various airports so that we all think he's putting in the work before hiring Jones.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 11:59 am to LoyalTiger
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LoyalTiger
Harold Boudreaux, is that you?
Posted on 4/12/12 at 12:05 pm to eXfaktor
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Jones is not a great coach
Are you really not understanding my point? Saban wasn't a great coach either before coming to LSU. Success is relative to where you are. There is only so much one can do at North Texas. Doesn't mean he can't have great success here.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 12:13 pm to Alt26
I agree why do so many not want a former LSU player to coach here.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 12:17 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Are you really not understanding my point?
No, I do understand your point. Everyone wants a "homerun hire" or one of the other popular names out there, but Jones wouldn't be a bad hire. Like I said, AT WORST he would be a below average hire- not bad, and not terrible.
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Jones is not a great coach (but he is a very solid coach, RIGHT NOW), and not even the best hire LSU could make right now.
I'm not saying he couldn't have success at LSU, because he really could. But again:
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If you can recruit, you can win at LSU. So, can Jones (cleanly) recruit for LSU (with no threat of sanctions)?
Posted on 4/12/12 at 12:19 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Look for Randy Livingston to be brought in to help Jones with recruiting and Mike Sanders to help with x & o's and player development. Sanders was La player of the year in 77 & 78 ,three year starter for UCLA, ten year NBA career, assistant coach for 3 Nba teams, extensive head coaching in D leagues, and is currently head of player development for Utah Jazz. Played with Jones at De Ridder and lives outside of Dallas.
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