re: Why hasn’t McMahon been fired yet?

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the 17,764th throw shite at Mcmahon thread.

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This is known as, "a good start"

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'm concerned the "braintrust" at LSU (using that term lightly) will likely screw this up. At the moment, it doesn't look like this will be a big market in terms of schools looking for new coaches. That means LSU could be one of the more attractive jobs. These are the current open jobs:

Kansas State
Boston College
Georgia Tech
Providence

It's likely Arizona State, Pitt and Syracuse will open too. There is also the "maybes" in Oklahoma, Memphis and Cincinnati.

If OU doesn't open, then LSU would be the only SEC job. There may be a few Big Ten jobs come open, but it wouldn't be big time programs. If nothing else, LSU's status as an SEC school, alone, makes this job attractive because SEC = money.

The worry is that you have influential people dug into the mindset that the only two choices are Wade or retaining McMahon. While I would love to see Wade return, that shouldn't be the mindset...for a number of reasons. First, Wade isn't going to get significantly "cheaper" by waiting until next season to try to hire him. LSU's "burdensome" expense (extravagant football costs, MM buyout, etc) will all still be there next year. Second, LSU doesn't HAVE to make a "big name" hire to have great success. That's been shown over, and over again in college basketball. So ignoring a potential mid-major hire on that basis alone is foolish. Regardless, McMahon has to go. LSU is literally the worst team in the SEC this season and, cumulatively, the worst over the last 4 years. You can't continue on with the status quo when you are already at the bottom.

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If this were the prior administration, I would agree with you. While chaotic at times, the way the football search played out tells me a little about the resolve of this administration. Given the people making the decisions, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Don't think they will make a decision unless they feel very confident that they have a target that they can get. With the people in charge, it seems pretty obvious who that target is.

As you've highlighted, the question then is if we can't land Wade, are we willing to go to market this year? I agree with your assessment above that we have a chance to be the most attractive job this cycle and that alone should be justification to making the move. The thing that concerns me the most is we don't have a basketball person in the process. That quite frankly is the only reason we landed Wade to begin with is because there was a basketball person in the room.

Agreed. My point is that I think you'll get a legit effort from this administration to land Wade. Timing is our worst enemy on that. We likely wouldn't land him until April 1st (buyout purposes). If that doesn't happen and we are firing McMahon in the first week of April and starting a search, we are in a tough spot.

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Agreed. My point is that I think you'll get a legit effort from this administration to land Wade. Timing is our worst enemy on that. We likely wouldn't land him until April 1st (buyout purposes). If that doesn't happen and we are firing McMahon in the first week of April and starting a search, we are in a tough spot.

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The decision to make a coaching change should have been made by, at least, late January when LSU started 1-7 in SEC play for the 3rd time in 4 years. So even if behind the scenes, those wheels should have long been in motion. That means LSU should already have a strong sense of (a) where Wade stands on leaving NC State and (b) what it would take to get him to LSU...if Wade is LSU's No. 1 target.

In a proper search, there would be no news that comes out about Wade until NC State's season is over (presumably in the NCAA Tournament). However, LSU and Wade's representation should have the framework of a deal in place now...so both sides can move quickly post April 1st, if the $2M reduction in Wade's buyout is a sticking point. However, LSU also has to be cognizant of the marketplace. Meaning that unless they have strong assurances in place from Wade he will agree to the LSU job on April 2, LSU has to quickly move to plan B so they can hire the best candidate they can in the days following the first two rounds of the NCAA Tournament. LSU doesn't want to be put in a spot where they miss out on Wade and ALSO miss out of the first pool of other candidates.

How can LSU afford NOT to fire McMahon?

He is 6-30 in the SEC regular season during the past two seasons, a 16.7 winning percentage.

LSU claims its average home attendance in 2025-26 was 7,116, or just 53.8 percent of PMAC capacity.

Based on early 2025 reports, the LSU men's basketball NIL budget was estimated to be just under $2 million, ranking 13th in the SEC. Clearly LSU is getting what it paid for.

NIL boosters could be experiencing buyer's remorse after failing to get a return on that investment. Instead of being coached up, the team actually underperformed at the conference level.

Verge is on the record as saying McMahon needed to reach the NCAA tournament this season. He told this to Tiger Rag, the same publication that recently advocated for McMahon's return.

It is literally insanity -- doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results -- to consider keeping McMahon beyond this season. No coach in modern LSU history has been allowed to keep his or her job with a 22ish winning percentage in the SEC after four seasons.

You're not getting an argument from me. I think he should be gone, period. That being said, after the way this AD and President handled the Kiffin hiring I'm willing to be patient and see how this plays out. If we have our coach identified and we are just waiting, then there is no rush to firing McMahon until the season ends.

If not and we bring him back, then it should be considered a failure by this admin.

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The decision to make a coaching change should have been made by, at least, late January when LSU started 1-7 in SEC play for the 3rd time in 4 years. So even if behind the scenes, those wheels should have long been in motion. That means LSU should already have a strong sense of (a) where Wade stands on leaving NC State and (b) what it would take to get him to LSU...if Wade is LSU's No. 1 target.

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Especially since the admin is on record stating that McMahon needs to make the NCAA Tournament this year or a major reevaluation will be made. If they dragged their feet on this after we started 1-7 in SEC play, it will be a major failure on their part after starting off so promisingly in hiring Kiffin and probably kill LSU men's basketball in the process.

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South Carolina sticking with Paris another season

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The only saving grace in this whole mess is that McMahon never had the fluke great year Paris did, which netted him a big raise/extension. Otherwise, there would be no glimmer of hope for a change like is the case at South Carolina.

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I very much worry about missing Wade and hitting the open market

We are historically bad at basketball hires and the mid major pool is a real mixed bag of success, not sure I have a ton of faith in the powers that be to find the guy

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Ordinarily I might agree. But it can't get worse than the current situation. The program is going nowhere under McMahon. At least someone else gives the fanbase some reason for optimism.

Any cliff notes?