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re: Why does it have to be the coaches fault? Why not blame the players?

Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:07 pm to
Posted by twh318
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:07 pm to
If you want to lay most of the blame on the players for losses, then give them credit for the wins. It's funny that so many people say the players deserve most of the blame because they are the ones executing the plays, but these same people are the first ones to shout Miles's winning percentage. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
Posted by FightinTiga
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:09 pm to
Answer me this,How the hell can you make an assessment on skill position players when they don't get the opportunity to prove themselves? Who's that on?
This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 12:12 pm
Posted by The Dudes Rug
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:09 pm to
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How the hell can you make an assessment on skill position player when the don't get the opportunity to prove themselves?

Huh?
Posted by FightinTiga
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:11 pm to
In other words,if they're not part of the plan how can you make the assumption they're not any good,got it?
Posted by The Dudes Rug
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:12 pm to
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In other words,if they're not part of the plan how can you make the assumption they're not any good,got it?


They do have practices during the week and months prior to the season.
Posted by FightinTiga
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:15 pm to
So out of all of these top skill set recruits that everyone in the country wanted,none are good enough in practice to be part of the gameplan? Come on man you can't be serious
Posted by The Dudes Rug
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:17 pm to
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So out of all of these top skill set recruits that everyone in the country wanted,none are good enough in practice to be part of the gameplan?

Okay, there are only two possible answers to this question.

1. They are not good enough to play.
2. The coaching staff is intentionally not playing the better person.

Which do you think it is?
Posted by Uncs
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:18 pm to
Are you kidding? 4 and 5 star recruits at every position!.

Losing the last five years to bama is the kids fault.

Wake. Clown you should be banned
Posted by The Dudes Rug
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:19 pm to
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4 and 5 star recruits at every position!.

LOL.


There is it.
Posted by FightinTiga
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:20 pm to
So let's say none of them are good enough to play,which I seriously doubt.Who recruited them?
Posted by Datbayoubengal
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:21 pm to
Cam is supposed to recruit the QBs and the best one he has is a guy who can't complete short passes. Look at the guy we missed out on in Mason Rudolph, who is lighting it up at Okie St.

Miles is at fault here in this regard as well. QBs see this crappy product at LSU year in and year out where we barely pass the ball and they say, no way!

Stars aren't everything. You need to get the guy that fits and has gpod accuracy.

On defense, the scheme is the direct cause of our pass defense woes. We had zero pass rush last year, but still finished ranked #3 in the country in pass defense. We have recruited and played man for years here and soft zone in year one has killed us because it takes time to get use to.

The lack of depth is on the DL and DC coaches of the past 6 years, but also Miles for not putting more emphasis on getting depth and quality depth.

Special teams still look bad and Peveto and Miles are the cause of it.

What happened to the OL? People can say what they want, but an FCS team ran and passed all over Arkansas as well as Ole Miss and Texas Tech. Arky had only gotten 8 sacks all year (the worst in the SEC and somewhere in the 100s in the country), yet got 5 against us, who ranked in the top 15 in allowing sacks.

This is the same LSU team that didn't allow a sack to Florida. This is the same team that averaged over 5 yards per carry and had 221 rush yards vs Florida.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:22 pm to
The OL has wallowed around like arthritic water buffalos the last two games.
Posted by Uncs
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:23 pm to
Why have a dual threat QB if he is in shot gun every formation and then scrambles for his life. Is that Dual Threat?

Why not roll him out like a TRUE DUAL threat.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:23 pm to
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So let's say none of them are good enough to play,which I seriously doubt

So you think the coaches are intentionally playing a weaker player over a better player?
Posted by FightinTiga
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:25 pm to
Miles is also the guy that recruited one of the best QB's in the country,who happens to be from LA,to be a damn FB
Posted by tgerb8
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:26 pm to
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Why does it have to be the coaches fault? Why not blame the players?


You have to blame the coaches more than the players. Obviously, something happened after Western Kentucky. Moore and Gordon being out have obviously hurt the running game. You don't go from the absolute dominance we had in that area to not being able to move the ball on the ground at all. The coaches should be able to adjust the scheme better than this, but it's been a pathetic attempt.

No Saban is not some "genius" that looked at our game film and said move that one D lineman 3 feet to the right.. and they're fricked.
Posted by FightinTiga
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:27 pm to
It's not just who he's not playing dude,even the cats he starts are not getting touches because he refuses to mix it up
Posted by The Dudes Rug
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:28 pm to
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No Saban is not some "genius" that looked at our game film and said move that one D lineman 3 feet to the right.. and they're fricked.


You're 100% right. Their players outplayed ours.
Posted by UpToPar
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:33 pm to
LSU has sent more players to the NFL in Miles' tenure as HC than almost any other team. Yet, with all that talent, we still underperform.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
14022 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:34 pm to
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Yet, with all that talent, we still underperform.



Holy frick. Are you trolling?
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