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Correct. Who is going to keep guys back when your offense lines up with 6 to 7 guards on the field most of the time.

The "deep safeties" were the most disguise they knew was necessary. How would you defend these lineups?

W G G G G G G G
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and to pass

W G G G G G W
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.......R

To qualify as a W you have to look great getting off the bus but incapable of getting off the LOS.

Caused him to warm up and use Newman, by far our best in the pen, before Friday which I'm sure was not his intention.

He got scared.

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I think you're missing the point that Alleva made Chavis and Les's decision for them that Chavis was leaving. It's widely known that Chavis wanted the Miles clause thrown out and Joe refused, going so far as to not even meet with Chavis about it which he thought showed a huge lack of respect. Whether you jumped on the 3rd and Chavis bandwagon or not as an LSU fan you have to admit that's not the way to treat a guy who has done a pretty damn good job calling your defense for 8 years.

You can argue that Chavis leaving was the catalyst for these good hires and it worked out great for LSU in the end, and I would agree, but that's a different issue from how supportive Alleva was of Miles before Nov. I think it's painfully obvious that Steele type hires would have become the norm if Alleva and whoever was instructing him had not pushed all their chips in and lost. In fact I think making phone calls for potential replacements to Miles was a sobering experience for them, and they realized it was no easy or cheap task to do better than Miles. I will give them credit for quickly getting behind the guy afterwards, I'll be the first to admit I thought having an AD that could get things like this done would take getting rid of Alleva to repair the damage done.

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Alleva gave Miles a totally unneeded and unearned extension after his bluff with Arky. Les should be eternally grateful to him. I doubt that the boosters who pay into the system were too anxious to give Alleva carte blanche anymore. I'm for LSU first and foremost and agree totally with the clause since being tied to an HC till 2018 that you can only release with a huge buyout should not be hooked to having to pay a king's ransom to jettison his staff.

Chavis got the treatment he deserved. He coached for 5 full years and one part time as he job hunted. He wasn't blindsided, he blindsided Miles and his own players.

The reason that Les was hamstrung is that he hadn't performed well enough to be given whatever he wanted. What's fair for LSU? Would having Aranda have helped that pathetic offense against Alabama and Arky? Cam is still on board and since the great recruiting class everyone has forgotten that elephant in the room.

Les Miles needs to win something aside from what has become his norm or these February to September victories are not going to be enough. The administration is giving him all the rope he needs to either pull the program to the top of the mountain again or hang himself. I would think they're hoping he pulls it up.

With that kind of support he needs to get better results when it really counts. Being just good enough to hang around probably won't be anymore.

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Whether Alleva was acting as an agent of larger forces who wanted Miles on a leash or not is a matter of debate, what's not is that he was the one carrying out those actions.

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Chavis already had Miles on a leash. Les was never going to remove him though he wasn't recruiting or working very hard for three years. How the hell does Aranda become an issue if Chavis is still here. And Brick was going to be here as long as Chavis was. Les was holding himself back because of his fear of change. Change was forced on him and he has reacted to it very well.

Correction: Fear is the wrong word. I don't think Les fears change. He is just very resistant to it if he feels things are going well enough.

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I've already answered this BS, you are FOS and don't know what you are talking about.

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Well that sure settles it. You and OJersey should get together sometimes and have a calm rational discussion on the definition of blind.

Sorry that I can't attend.

Well I truly was mistaken More&Les.

I confirmed my mistake about the 5 for 5 reference. That was CHILGE giving Les credit for something he had nothing to do with except standing around waiting for a fax that never came.

Can't understand why I thought it might be you??

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Remember the 5 for 5 a few years ago.



Leonard Fournette
Malachi Dupre

Speedy Noil
Gerald Willis
Tony Brown

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Les Miles is crazy like a fox.

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I certainly am not going to dwell on negatives that haven't happened.

What you need to know about me is that I have bled P&G my entire life and that started long before 2000 or 2005 or last year. I always want the Tigers to go undefeated and win it all, my heart is broken with every loss or set back.

I believe we are an elite program and I believe the results of the next few years will be a reflection of the results CLM and his staff have earned in recruiting for the last few.

LF7 will leave here a Champion and BH will leave here a champion and some of these guys will leave with multiple rings, imho.

That's what I think.

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Just bleeding P&G does not make you right and you're not. I've been following LSU since the early 60's. So what?

You've been corrected once already about the 5 for 5 but you missed the point entirely. Those were the 5 stars in that class and you gave Les credit for signing the two that turned out well and not the other three that didn't. That part is true but what did that have to do with Les? Did he pull their offers before NSD? Of course not. Les would have taken their LOI's and bragged about it at the BASH and the whole off season. As well he should.

But giving him credit for being clever is really congratulating him and LSU for being just plain lucky. We dodged three bullets there. Of course we didn't dodge bullets on Landon Collins, Tim Williams, and Cam Robinson though I'm sure you can find some way of blaming Joe Alleva for those.

If you take off the P&G glasses, look at the conference record over the last four years, then stop, breathe, and think what would you see?

That Makinbacon is right. The program was sliding and complacent for the last few years and a good kick in the arse was well deserved. If not for Alleva and the Miles clause we'd still have part time Chavis and lazy arse Haley stealing money during recruiting season - and no Aranda or Orgeron. The agent of change has not been Les though he has benefited greatly from it.

That being said another 3 losses in the conference next season (Miles only loses games that count) and the "coup" will fire up again. There are no excuses this time.

Unless it's Cam of course... always leave a designated scapegoat.

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Good god dude.
I was saying that the pressure felt hS helped, which it did.

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Of course it did.

That was a very complacent and comfortable coaching staff that thought they were untouchable and protected by Les. Letting JC walk and getting rid of Haley helped get things moving again.

And people touting those previous classes need to explain the holes on LSU's team over the last few years when recruiting has been so great. It's not just at QB. Just compiling recruiting stars does not measure a class if you don't meet your needs.

That and they actually re-recruited their draft eligible players this time.

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He was terrible at Purdue. Played in 13 games in 2 years and was pretty awful. The guy that beat him out last year also transferred this year because he was awful.

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Maybe they both transferred because Purdue is terribly awful.

If Brees played for this Purdue team he'd have transferred too.

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I can't remember where I read this - it was either a Cam or Les interview - but he said that Cam kept insisting Harris wasn't ready, and Les kept pressuring for Harris. Finally Cam relented, and they started Harris for Auburn. He was terrible, we were destroyed, and Harris was injured.

I'm not sure how true that is, but it came from one of the coaches. If it's true it's safe to assume that Les learned a lesson about interfering and let Cam call the shots the rest of the way.

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Cam was actually laughing in interviews about the chances of starting Harris against AU until the day that the change was announced. He knew he wasn't ready but Les was getting a lot of heat from the fanbase and he probably wanted to scratch that itch himself. He started Harris against Cameron's objections.

After the way it blew up in his face I'm sure he'll be far more hesitant to stick his toe in that water again. If the o-line, the run game, and the D are solid this year I fully expect AJ for 80% of the snaps or more. If Harris starts an SEC game it will probably be because of jail or injury and saying that he'll be on a short leash is an understatement.

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You have no idea what youre talking about. Losing to UAB is far worse than finishing #2 in the country. I hate our dumbass fan base.

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Nobody outside of LA and ALA knows that Saban lost a game to UAB. They will recall the 1-9 game if they are CFB fans. Broadway flops are costlier than one in Peoria.