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re: Why did we not win the BCS in 2005 and 2006

Posted on 1/13/10 at 10:25 am to
Posted by Lee Chatelain
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 10:25 am to
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PacLSU


What are you trying to imply with this thread. I don't understand the point of it?
Posted by JYD
Pineville
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 10:28 am to
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2006 = Miles's ULTRA-CONSERVATISM
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 10:28 am to
2006 team would have beaten anyone at year end. They were playing well. But they shot themselves in the foot with ultra conservative game at AU!
Posted by Lee Chatelain
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 10:30 am to
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But they shot themselves in the foot with ultra conservative game at AU!


I bet someone is going to say it was the ref's fault!
Posted by Good Times
Hill top in Tn
Member since Nov 2007
24442 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 10:31 am to
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bet someone is going to say it was the ref's fault!



It's the ref's fault. YOU CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
This post was edited on 1/13/10 at 10:33 am
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7678 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 10:35 am to
I agree that the 2006 team was extremely talented, but I think they are being mythologized to some degree. It took that team a long time to find any sort of running game with the more experienced backs being injured and not playing that well. They had tremendous, gut check road wins at TN and Arkansas but both games were close and they dominated neither. As I recall, Bama was down that year and they lost to both Auburn and Florida with the O looking ugly both times. Anyway, great team with a lot of talent but it sometimes seems like people put them in a different class than 2003 and 2007 and I don't think that's warranted
Posted by 75Stripes
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 11:02 am to
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2005: Lost a 21-point lead AT home against Tennessee.

Seems like you and nearly everyone else seem to forget that these very young men hardly, if at all, slept the night before. Many of them had family members staying with them in already small quarters and they were helping out with the PMAC being converted to a triage center. The huge physical and emotional toll this took on our players was evident in the second half. That we reached the SECCG was amazing in and of itself.
Posted by PacLSU
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 11:04 am to
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What are you trying to imply with this thread. I don't understand the point of it?
I am implying that if Les Miles' coaching success is based solely on the existence of Saban recruits then there should have been a directly relational decline in the team's success as Saban's players left the team. However, what we actually see is sustained success over that time period with the greatest achievement coming after two years of Saban player attrition. Therefore, my conclusion is that Les Miles has some capacity to win games with his own coaching ability and that his failures may go beyond just that of losing Saban's players.
Posted by Common sence
Gilbert ,Az
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 11:07 am to
And he did it just like Saban almost blew the Texas game, by playing concervative. Only difference bama had a little more luck.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
33179 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 11:30 am to
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Why did we not win the BCS in 2005
Hurricane Katrina, you dumbass.
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and 2006
Miles and Jimbo fricked up the Auburn game, you dumbass.
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 11:32 am to
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We got really lucky to win the BCS in 07 with 2 losses.

Baloney. If the best team in the country wins the MNC(And LSU was the consensus "best team" from early on in the season) I don't call that luck. Had a Big East team won the title in '07, now that would be luck. By the way Urban has never gone undefeated either and Saban just did it for the first time.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 11:35 am to
Look, I agree there is a lot you can criticize Miles for, and I have done so here often. However, I REFUSE to criticize Miles for 2006. You can't win games that are fixed. Plain and simple. And yes, I think UF beats us without zebra help in 2006 anyway, but a 14-0 lead right before HT, at the Swamp, would have been huge.

I won't get into the autrocity that was Auburn. I hope to never see something so obvious again in my lifetime, although the SEC, as a whole, topped this in 2009 with the love they gave to Bama and UF to ensure the SECCG matchup they got.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 11:36 am to
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because Les botched the most talented LSU team in 20 years in 2006?
This. 2006 is the season that should have been. Good job les.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55424 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 11:40 am to
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This. 2006 is the season that should have been. Good job les.


Again, you can't win fixed games. I don't care what you want to believe. Won't happen.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
44772 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 11:48 am to
Then Miles was in on the fix. LSU didn't even try to score a TD for the first 3 quarters against Auburn.
Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 11:57 am to
We should have. It was the most talented LSU teams ever. Coaching was the reasons we didnt.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 12:02 pm to
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This. 2006 is the season that should have been. Good job les.


I don't recall Miles being on the field at Fla in 06 dropping punts, KO's, fumbling on the Gator one, or throwing 3 INTs.

I kinda recall all that great talent doing that, but I'm sure I must be wrong.

This post was edited on 1/13/10 at 12:06 pm
Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 12:04 pm to
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because Les botched the most talented LSU team in 20 years in 2006?



Coaching was definitely responsible for the Auburn loss that year, but not the Florida one. We were clearly prepared to play against Florida-we came out super pumped up and jumped on 'em early. Then Jamarcus and the rest of the players shite the bed. That loss was all on the players imo.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55424 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 12:07 pm to
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LSU didn't even try to score a TD for the first 3 quarters against Auburn.


LOL. Kind of hard to score when phantom calls are made, or obvious calls are NOT made, every time LSU was in AU territory.

Again, AU 2006 isn't on Les. UF, probably. AU, no. I blame Les for a lot, but not that game.
Posted by cigtyme
Houma, La
Member since Nov 2007
946 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 12:11 pm to
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He blew a 21 point lead at home in 2005. He scored 3 fricking points against Auburn in 2006 with 3 first rounders on offense. In 2007 he should've gone to the Sugar Bowl again, but the most ridiculous events ever took place and LSU jumped from 7 to 2 in the final poll. It was the only year that a 2 loss team won the title. He didn't do anything different in 2007 than he did in 2005 and 2006, same record. In fact he fricked up even worse as he lost TWO MOTHERfrickING GAMES TO UNRANKED TEAMS WHILE BEING RANKED NUMBER frickING ONE.


actually kentucky was no 17
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