re: Why did we immediately go to 3 wide sets with Etling? Did Cam Take Over?

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Danny Etling can progress to a 3rd target.

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This play illustrates BH's lack of mental progression starting with leaving the huddle. He need only do a quick survey of Dural and Chi to see that Dural's man is way off the line and Chi's is up tight on him.

Not only that, but BH's eyes lead the LBs over to Chi to take away underneath space. He leaves an easy completion on the table in order to throw a difficult incompletion. He also doesn't know how to use his eyes or shoulders to loosen the flow of coverage to his target.

I was thinking the same thing! That would have been Taylor made for BH.LM said they had the first half scripted out for BH so im assuming Danny just ran the plays he was supposed to run.

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Why did we immediately go to 3 wide sets with Etling? Did Cam Take Over

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I think you're reaching a bit. Harris had his opportunities in 3WR sets and failed to get passed his second read. He also failed at recognizing coverage. This is why we see so many wide open receivers that Harris can't seem to find.

With DE16 it starts at the line of scrimmage. He said it in post game, he was able recognize the coverage and narrow down his targets to either the RB or TE. He saw the TE break free and knew he had him immediately. The play calling wasn't any different. The recognition was different. The real question is, will he be able to do the same things with more complex defenses.

Harris has proven he can't do it with a defense as basic as JSUs so what do you think will happen if he were to try and make reads against better competition. At least, at this point, DE16 gives us a little more of a chance at making an impact with the passing game just based on his ability to read a coverage.

well you are wrong like most tards on this board.


The replay is on right now, why don't you watch?


They ran 2wr sets as much as they normally do and the first set Etling ran was a 2 WR 1 TE off-set I formation.

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Harris had plenty to of 3 WR looks in both games

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The only thing Harris had plenty of in the JSU game was overthrows (3 of 4, 75%) and 3-and-outs (100%). He only had 6 plays total, so he didn't have time for "plenty" of anything else.

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He did it vs JSU and Harris did not.

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Harris was garbage against JSU. Pulling him was best for him long-term at that point. No argument here.

In the other game against a much more significant defense, Harris did much of the same things Etling did. Check downs, TE passes, etc.

The primary difference from an on-the-field standpoint is that Etling made the easy passes look easy and showed the ability to pick up yards with his legs, something that has mysteriously escaped Harris this year. The difference from an intangibles standpoint is that Etling appears to be a more vocal leader, and and on an offense that seems to be lacking in that department, he brought a spark in the 2nd quarter.

That is basically it. The hype about everything else is just the Rant doing what it does when a QB provides a glimmer of hope. I appreciate it all and people need a little optimism every so often around here, but much of it is just baseless fluff at this point.

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The primary difference from an on-the-field standpoint is that Etling made the easy passes look easy and showed the ability to pick up yards with his legs, something that has mysteriously escaped Harris this year. The difference from an intangibles standpoint is that Etling appears to be a more vocal leader, and and on an offense that seems to be lacking in that department, he brought a spark in the 2nd quarter.

That is basically it. The hype about everything else is just the Rant doing what it does when a QB provides a glimmer of hope. I appreciate it all and people need a little optimism every so often around here, but much of it is just baseless fluff at this point.

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I'd also add my point at the top of this page about BH hurting his WRs chances at separation. Ask any NFL QB and they will tell you a large part of getting space for their receivers is in the QB's head and shoulders. Looking off even for a split second can mean a play working or being swarmed. BH hurts the team's execution in this regard. Go back and watch DE a little closer and you can see he is doing more of what he is coached to do on that, imo.

I think this is part of what Les/Cam see from BH in live action that leads Les to say things like "BH is not executing it in the game" like he does in practice (paraphrasing). He tenses up. He zeroes in on WRs. He doesn't survey the field walking up to the line. And you can bet a decent DC on the other side can see this in film and be ready to eat him alive. The result is very, very, very tight throwing windows for underneath and intermediate stuff.

I think DE just handles this more comfortably, and that helps everyone. But, small sample size so far. Let's see how Saturday goes.

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good breakdown.

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Thanks.

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The thing I noticed most is that DE checks down receivers and it seems like BH already has his mind made up of where the ball is going when they break from the huddle.

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There is really no way to know any of this without knowing the primary reads on most pass plays. Dumping it off is obvious, sure, but we've seen that from both QBs this year.

My biggest beef in everything since Saturday is the relentless criticisms of Harris that seem to accompany every Etling thread or comment, particularly the comments that attack his character, integrity, or intelligence. Les Miles and the staff trusts Harris or they wouldn't call a pass play from their own 2 yard line with LF in the backfield. Harris has just struggled to string together completions. We saw Etling go 6 for 8 in one stretch and set the world on fire in the stadium. Harris completed 4 in a row against Wisconsin, including a TD pass, but other than that it was an spotty and there was no rhythm. I don't know how much of that is on Harris but if it gets better with a QB change then it is what it is.