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re: Why did Bill Arnsparger leave so quickly?

Posted on 10/27/25 at 9:39 pm to
Posted by ShockG082
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Posted on 10/27/25 at 9:39 pm to
He hated recruiting
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 10/27/25 at 9:52 pm to
Brodhead was very clear in his book that he was hired to fire Jerry Stovall.
Posted by lctiger
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Posted on 10/27/25 at 10:16 pm to
There is a very detailed account of the Brodhead/Arnsparger times online “and the valley shook” I was young during those years but pretty connected and it was insightful to read. It reminded me Arnsparger was burnt out coaching but wanted to be AD, LSU offered him AD but only if he would remain head football coach. He declined. Ironically Brodhead had been fired as AD, and he and Arnsparger both were up for the UF AD job.
Posted by ShockG082
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:16 am to
I will never forget that Nebraska loss. It was bitter.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:19 am to
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No he wasn't! Jerry stovall recruited Dalton Hilliard, Gary James and Leonard Marshall!


Leonard finished in '82 so I'm thinking he was a Cholly Mac recruit. Dalton and Garry were Stovall recruits,
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:27 am to
Arnsparger left because head coach at LSU is a high energy young man’s game. He wanted quality of life. Remember that next time we want to hire someone in his 50’s. A guy like Lane Kiffin, who is 50, might have 6 or 7 years left in him. Give that guy a 10 year guaranteed contract, and you will be buying him out in seven years - max.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52285 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:42 am to
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I’d argue he was probably a better pure football mind than Saban

You would win by a mile. Saban is not a noteworthy strategist. His success was always due to these three things:
1. Relentless talent evaluator and recruiter. Saban’s teams were almost always the most talented in the nation.
2. Relentless scouting of opponents. Saban’s staff found the tendencies of their opponents then coached to take them away.
3. Disciplined adherence to processes that included talent evaluation, recruiting, booster fundraising to pay players, scouting, coaching technique, etc.

The national championship game against Oklahoma was a great example of taking opponents’ tendencies away. Their Heisman QB could not find an open receiver all night. LSU DBs were squatting on their routes. Other great examples were every LSU game. RBs like Fournette were met in the backfield by LBers blitzing the intended gap.

When Dabo Sweeney broke tendencies against Bama in the championship games he was able to beat Saban with grossly inferior across-the-board talent (and admittedly, a great QB).
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 2:45 am
Posted by GA Tiger
Woodstock
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 10/28/25 at 5:08 am to
Arnsparger was never a long-term man. He was a good Coach but he won with the recruits Stovall stockpiled. He probably didn’t like recruited (Most pro Coaches don’t).
Posted by drizztiger
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 10/28/25 at 5:26 am to
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Broadhead. If you think Aleva or Woodward are\were bad, Broadhead was 10x worse.
This may be the worst, most misinformed, uninformed, incorrect, drunken history, 4-page thread I’ve ever read on TD - and that’s saying a lot.

Holy shite, names, dates, events, timing of events completely wrong and repeated over and over again. I wasn’t even a teenager yet when Arnsparger was hired as LSU HC and have a better understanding of everything that transpired of his tenure and departure, Spurrier, etc. This is an embarrassing thread to read.
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 5:35 am
Posted by GA Tiger
Woodstock
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 10/28/25 at 5:54 am to
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He was responsible for getting us Dalton Hilliard! Legend!


Stovall recruited him. He and Garry James were the “stud recruits” in that class. James got hurt and Hilliard started 1st game and stayed ahead of James.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 10/28/25 at 6:28 am to
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He was responsible for getting us Dalton Hilliard! Legend!
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Stovall recruited him. He and Garry James were the “stud recruits” in that class. James got hurt and Hilliard started 1st game and stayed ahead of James.
Arnsparger was so amazing that he recruited the Dalton-James gang to play for LSU in 1982, two years before he took over as HC. It was great he led us to the Raining Oranges victory over FSU that year as well. That about fits in with the accuracy of most of this thread.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17761 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 6:39 am to
Uncle Bill did not like recruiting and he did not like Dale Brown and felt like Broadhead was letting Dale run wild and unchecked, which....he kinda was.

Good defensive coach but 3 of the worst bowl games we ever played were under him. The one where he let all the players find their own way to the bowl games may be one of the craziest things I've heard of.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
16587 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:11 am to
Because Florida offered him the AD job.
Posted by Vanilla Thunder
Member since Apr 2022
1351 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:23 am to
Arnsparger didn’t hire Spurrier away from lsu, per se. Yes, spurrier was the Duke HC prior to Fla.
However, spurrier was interviewed for the vacancy in 86-87. He was coaching the Tampa bay bandits of the USFL. He wanted the lsu job and called it a “sleeping giant”. The players wanted Archer promoted and Arnsparger was also in favor of the promotion. Spurrier reiterated this because he likes to tell the story of “I wanted that job and I never got a second interview.”
He never let us forget it.
“Ok. Let’s drop half a hundred on these boys and go home.”
Arnsparger was “tired of coaching”.
That is until he left Fla to become DC for the San Diego chargers and led them to a Super Bowl appearance.
Posted by Tigre85
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:47 am to
That would have been coach Stovall .
Posted by Akiro
Member since Jun 2025
414 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:47 am to
And fricked us in the process pushing the promotion of Mike Archer as head coach :(
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:29 am to
here is a better link to the Crazy Days at LSU video that Jacques Doucet did on WAFB

he interviews Mike Archer about it, really good stuff

Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
36976 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:32 am to
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My dad was on Bill’s staff. We had to spend Christmas on Memphis and it sucked!


And we played like dog shite against a very average Baylor team and got our arse beat.

If I recall, the weather sucked too...wasn't it rainy and cold?
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24838 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:45 am to
Florida ad job
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
16587 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:49 am to
Spurrier wanted the LSU job. So did Mike Shanahan. They weren’t even considered because Archer was a done deal from the beginning.
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