- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Why are y’all crying about Clemson “reporting” it?
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:40 am to RB10
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:40 am to RB10
quote:
The only issue I have with any of this is if Houston really didn’t tell Haulcy he was going to be suspended.
As someone else pointed out in another thread, it’s covered in a field that Houston had to fill out on the transfer paperwork:
quote:
Has the student-athlete been disqualified or suspended for disciplinary reasons?
Haulcy and LSU say Houston didn’t notify them. I haven’t seen any statement from Houston otherwise, and it would be pretty easy to refute if they answered anything other than “no” on the paperwork.
To me it’s pretty black and white. Either Houston disclosed the suspension (and this is all some sort of weird stunt by LSU) or they didn’t (and this is pretty fricked up). I find it impossible to believe the suspension was disclosed on the transfer tracer and LSU simply overlooked it.
0
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:40 am to Fun Bunch
quote:
That is an egregious failing.
LOL, no it isn't.
With reactions like this, this is going to be a miserable place tomorrow.
The meltdowns over this are insane. What LSU did gave Haulcy the best chance of playing first half vs Clemson. It's a first half suspension and would not have affected game prep or season prep much at all.
The options in this situation in order of probability were:
1. Self incriminate and reach out to the NCAA for clarification and Haulcy is suspended.
2. Ignore the situation, hoping it flies under the radar giving Haulcy a chance to play, but Houston or Clemson reports and Haulcy is suspended. LSU plays dumb publicly to save face when they probably already knew.
3. Ignore the situation and hope it flies under the radar with no notice from anyone - Haulcy plays.
4. Ignore the situation, hoping it flies under the radar giving Haulcy a chance to play, but Houston or Clemson reports to NCAA and NCAA allows Haulcy to play.
5. LSU self-reports and NCAA allows Haulcy to play.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:42 am to RB10
quote:
Yes, just like Houston, BYU was told by the Big 12. BYU then told the player he was sitting out.
BYU had to because they had a bowl game coming up.
Houston either didn’t bother because it wasn’t until next season, or maybe they just dropped the ball, or they knew he was transferring and being sour grapes over it to screw him and his new team.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:44 am to LSUfan4444
quote:
Because eligibility and NCAA infractions depend on their clarification. That's why you have a compliance department in the first place.
The fact that Lassiter sat out and served a suspension in the first half of the Alama bowl should at the very least, made LSU aware of the possibility of a suspension and should have required reaching out to Houston. Not doing so is exactly the point and exactly why you ask. You don't assume you know, you find out.
I pulled this from ChatGPT and something isn't adding up.
quote:
How It’s Supposed to Work:
When a player transfers:
The previous school (School A) is required to provide a Transfer Tracer Form (or equivalent communication) to the new school (School B).
This form includes information on academic standing, eligibility, and any pending disciplinary actions, including NCAA suspensions.
School B is required to follow up and verify eligibility before the student-athlete can compete.
If School A fails to disclose the suspension:
That is a violation of NCAA rules. Schools are expected to act in good faith and maintain compliance.
If this failure is later discovered, School A could face penalties, and the player could be ruled ineligible retroactively at School B.
Does the NCAA notify School B directly?
Not usually. The NCAA expects schools to handle eligibility tracking and disclosure via compliance offices.
However, if the suspension was adjudicated centrally (e.g., by the NCAA Committee on Infractions), and if the NCAA is aware the student-athlete has transferred, they can and sometimes do notify School B, particularly if the case is high-profile or already logged in the NCAA’s internal systems.
The NCAA may also flag the player’s eligibility status in compliance databases like RSRO (Requests/Self-Reports Online), which compliance offices at both schools can access.
quote:
So, who's responsible for notifying School B?
Entity Responsibility
School A Must disclose any known NCAA suspensions to School B during transfer process.
School B Must verify player’s eligibility, including checking for pending suspensions.
NCAA May flag the player’s eligibility status in internal systems but does not routinely send direct notifications to new schools unless necessary.
quote:
Bottom Line:
If School A knowingly withheld the suspension info, that’s a compliance violation.
My question having read all of that is, if Houston is required to provide documentation of pending disciplinary issues to LSU during the transfer process why did LSU or the SEC have any knowledge until this week?
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:44 am to Havoc
quote:
BYU had to because they had a bowl game coming up. Houston either didn’t bother because it wasn’t until next season, or maybe they just dropped the ball, or they knew he was transferring and being sour grapes over it to screw him and his new team.
They were told in “early December” that he was suspended and he entered the appeal in early December.
Houston got the info and likely didn’t tell him because he told them he was as transferring.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:45 am to NawlinsTiger9
quote:I would imagine we knew about it, made some shallow inquiries to cover our asses then moved along. We were on house money, so we had nothing to lose. Now, playing an ineligible player could have really sucked. So we should all be glad he didnt trot our there for the first snaps.
Welp, sounds like we gambled and lost
No one should be melting about this. If we put Haucys jersey on his backup, no one would know the difference in such a small time frame.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:46 am to RB10
quote:
Houston got the info and likely didn’t tell him because he told them he was as transferring.
Apparently that would be an NCAA violation by Houston not to disclose.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:47 am to JiminyCricket
quote:
My question having read all of that is, if Houston is required to provide documentation of pending disciplinary issues to LSU during the transfer process why did LSU or the SEC have any knowledge until this week?
It would be hilarious if Houston gets popped for not disclosing the suspension.
It wouldn’t be anything serious, just amusing and a nice “frick you” to them.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:47 am to Jack Daniel
Our coaching staff should have know this before they even signed him. I would have still signed the young man but our Head Coach and Staff are to blame for not catching this way before.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:47 am to JiminyCricket
quote:
Apparently that would be an NCAA violation by Houston not to disclose.
There’s always the possibility they thought it was 2024 only and didn’t carry over into 2025.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:48 am to holdem Tiger
quote:
This isn't hard. There was no reason for LSU to suspect or investigate.
Wrong
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:49 am to Tammany Tom
quote:
Whenever a large company hires a new employee, they do a deep dive investigation on that employee.
No actually not all of them do…
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:49 am to Jack Daniel
quote:This is the obviously only correct opinion on the matter. It's unreal what whiny, irrational, inconsistent homer pussies the majority are on here.
If the roles were reversed, everyone here would be saying BK is playing 4D chess and a ruthless genius. This is why every other fanbase thinks LSU fans are whiny pussies.
This falls on Kelly and his personnel department for this to “surprise” them days before the game.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:53 am to Jack Daniel
quote:
This falls on Kelly and his personnel department for this to “surprise” them days before the game.
Wrong. Why in the frick would there be any reason to question the official Box Score and records of the game? They had the penalty recorded as Unsportsmanlike and that should be the end-all, be-all reference. The NCAA should amend the rules for the future to say that the official records will determine future enforcement no matter what. If they aren’t corrected and up-to-date after a mistake like this, then whatever is on them stands and doesn’t matter if the conference sends a letter to a school after the fact. Enforcement needs to be uniform, not half-assed, bush league shite like this was.
As for how I would handle this- unless we are talking about an end of season award nominee level star, I would sit on it. I would prefer that our staff sit on a situation like this, as well. How much advantage did Clemson really gain from this? A starter with a backup who has talent and game experience sits for one half. Ok. But to get there, they have also kicked a hornet’s nest and created drama where it didn’t have to exist before a big game. If that motivates our defense and they go out and take it to them for a half, then how will you say this worked out?
Plus you still have Haulcy able to play for half of the game. If this were a full game suspension, maybe it’s worth whatever free motivation you hand the opposition to bench a starter. But for a guy who looks like an upgrade for us a Safety, but not necessarily a star, I don’t think the juice for one half is worth the squeeze. If Spears plays well and the defense plays with an extra edge, this will end up looking like a stupid move.
I really hope it blows up in Dabo’s face. If the defense plays with its hair on fire and the. Haulcy shows up in the 2nd half and makes plays, the narrative on this will shift very quickly. Even though it’s usually just stupid, staged public statements crying about meaningless bullshite with him, it wouldn’t be the first time ole Dabo said or did something stupid and made himself look bad unnecessarily.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:54 am to Jack Daniel
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:56 am to RB10
quote:
quote:
Apparently that would be an NCAA violation by Houston not to disclose.
There’s always the possibility they thought it was 2024 only and didn’t carry over into 2025.
Something is clearly not adding up.
1) Did Houston not provide a form and if they didn't, why wouldn't LSU have asked for it?
2) Did Houston provide an inaccurate form and if so, what punishment comes with that?
3) If Houston did provide an accurate form, why didn't LSU or the league office know about this suspension until this week?
I find it hard to believe that LSU got the tracer form for 17 other transfers but forgot about it for Haulcy. I also find it hard to believe that they wouldn't have noticed the suspension on the document assuming they received it. Something just isn't adding up.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:57 am to Papa Tigah
If it can be appealed, problem solved
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:59 am to josh336
quote:
If it can be appealed, problem solved
It can't. Theoretically, I suppose LSU could sue but idk if that could happen fast enough to have a temporary injunction for tomorrow.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:03 pm to JiminyCricket
quote:
I find it hard to believe that LSU got the tracer form for 17 other transfers but forgot about it for Haulcy. I also find it hard to believe that they wouldn't have noticed the suspension on the document assuming they received it. Something just isn't adding up.
I’d bet good money Houston’s compliance department filled out the transfer form and never even knew his ejection was upgraded and carried an additional suspension.
I’m guessing that letter came after Haulcy told them he was entering the portal and they said “ah well, not our problem anymore”.
If it was actually addressed to the coach I bet he never even told their compliance department about it.
ETA: This is all assuming LSU’s compliance department didn’t miss it when the paper work came in. That would be a pretty huge miss.
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:12 pm to RB10
quote:
I’d bet good money Houston’s compliance department filled out the transfer form and never even knew his ejection was upgraded and carried an additional suspension. I’m guessing that letter came after Haulcy told them he was entering the portal and they said “ah well, not our problem anymore”. If it was actually addressed to the coach I bet he never even told their compliance department about it.
All very possible. That’s why this kind of a correction needs to be made public in the future, and not just handled through conferences and schools. That just creates a grey area where something like this can slip through the cracks.
Page 4 of 5
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News