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re: Whoever decided "hey lets try to job BK out of his contract" needs to be sent to pasture
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:14 am to La Place Mike
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:14 am to La Place Mike
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Napier's buy out is less than half of what Kelly's buyout is. If Woodward had opened up the check book and over paid Kelly we wouldn't be here now.
Napier was the coach at ULL with zero major conf. success.
Kelly was the coach at ND with multiple BCS/CFP appearances and in the midst of an 11-1 record.
In short, LSU HAD to pay significantly more for BK if they wanted him. That's how leverage and the free market works.
The hire didn't deliver the desired result. But if LSU hired Napier in 2022 and it came out shortly after that they could have hired Kelly if they were willing to spend a bit more money, this board would have gone APESHIT with anger at Woodward
You wanted a "big name, splash" hire. BK's contract was the market price for one.
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:14 am to PurpNGold1985
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Billionaire Isn’t coming up with 54 million lump. It’s 800k a month for 6 years. Thats chump change to a billionaire. LSU trying to reduce the buyout has nothing to do with not having it secured bc they don’t need 50 million secured and donated all at once. It’s being paid out over time. People really will run with anything because of speculation. Just because A is true doesn’t mean B is as well.
Legit question, if it's no big deal, then why are they fighting so hard to not pay him what he is contractually owed? They are willingly to publicly make themselves look bad to the rest of the country and other coaches in order to not pay his full buyout. There must be a reason that they are willing to do that right?
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:16 am to GrizzlyWintergreen
Definitley not a good look. We look like the merchant of Venice.
Pay the man. If you don't want to pay a huge buyout, don't sign a $100 million contract.
Pay the man. If you don't want to pay a huge buyout, don't sign a $100 million contract.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:18 am to GrizzlyWintergreen
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LSU is a disorganized, shady, good ole boys club, who dont honor their deals in writing. Someone in LSU has royally fricked this search.
This is the number 1 reason LSU IS NOT a top 5 job. Because of bullshite like this, and all the bullshite going on with firing Kelly.
Its always fun for talking heads on the outside love to say "oh LSU is a top 5 job because of the talent rich players all over", but they totally gloss over all of the political bullshite and disfunction that comes along with dealing with LSU and the boosters that "run LSU".
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:39 am to deathvalleytiger10
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quote:He wants a settlement, Of course he does and so does LSU.
This negates the entire premise of the OP.
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Nobody is going to take a settlement at roughly half what is owed though.
That’s not what he was offered. He was offered roughly 2/3 (lump sum is worth more than annuity), and relief from his mitigation duties. I’ll spare you the math, but he could easily make more in this arrangement if he coaches again, which he has a duty to at least try and do under the current arrangement.
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Reports he countered at $43million, which is high, but that is how negotiations work.
Well why is LSU’s offer not how negotiations work? It’s basically his full contract. If that was his counter to the second offer, it is much more ridiculous than LSU’s.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:46 am to SOL2
quote:What happens with your job if you dont do what you are supposed to? I get that it was guaranteed, but he made many promises that were BS and his offense was putrid. Instead of going on vacation on a bye week , he should have been working on fixing the problems the team is having. Also, the players and some coaches came forward and said they never saw him. Frank has been running things much longer than most realize. Bk was coasting his way to the end of the contract.
Definitley not a good look. We look like the merchant of Venice.
Pay the man. If you don't want to pay a huge buyout, don't sign a $100 million contract.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:47 am to GrizzlyWintergreen
probably the same guy that lost basically every suit he did while AG that yall elected as governor in a landslide.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:48 am to Ingeniero
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You keep saying this while ignoring the fact that LSU can easily say "we will abide by the contract, you were fired without cause, please start looking for a new job immediately to offset the monthly buyout we are paying." They obviously haven't done that yet, so they're entertaining a settlement as well.
They were negotiating with him, and were then served (I don’t know if it has been served but it’s obviously public) with a lawsuit they have to respond to or otherwise address. He said he was open to settlement and then sued with serious yet vague allegations. When exactly were we expecting LSU to do what you are suggesting?
If we remove the allegations from the lawsuit, what exactly has LSU done wrong or otherwise messed up here?
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:53 am to LSBoosie
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Legit question, if it's no big deal, then why are they fighting so hard to not pay him what he is contractually owed?
Again, how is LSU’s “fighting so hard”? The allegations in the lawsuit are not fact. Settling a contract is a completely normal thing. Kelly’s behavior is not.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:54 am to GrizzlyWintergreen
No legitimate business man would just lay down and pay BK the full amount of his buy out based on the shite job he did. They are attempting to mitigate the loss as much as possible. Happens everyday in business whether you know about it or not. Everything is a negotiation, especially with agents and attorneys involved. We are seeing posturing on both sides and maybe they have some recourse which will make BK settle for less.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:01 am to OceanMan
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If we remove the allegations from the lawsuit, what exactly has LSU done wrong or otherwise messed up here?
They were negotiating, but could not come to terms. Once they realized they weren't going to reach an agreement, BK's lawyers gave LSU a deadline to basically formally fire him. LSU didn't do it by the deadline and instead informed BK's representatives that they intend to fire him with cause. However, LSU is delaying that because they currently don't have their shite together or a reason to fire him with cause.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:03 am to OceanMan
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Again, how is LSU’s “fighting so hard”? The allegations in the lawsuit are not fact. Settling a contract is a completely normal thing. Kelly’s behavior is not.
LSU is refusing to actually fire Kelly because they are desperately searching for reasons to fire him with cause. Is that normal? I don't see that happening with all the other coaches that are being fired. You are saying that Kelly wanting his full buyout is not normal behavior?
This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 9:06 am
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:07 am to GrizzlyWintergreen
Holy Melt batman.
Its going to be Okay. LSU and BK will settle soon.
This is nothing that’s not normal
Its going to be Okay. LSU and BK will settle soon.
This is nothing that’s not normal
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:10 am to LSBoosie
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LSU is refusing to actually fire Kelly because they are desperately searching for reasons to fire him with cause. Is that normal? I don't see that happening with all the other coaches that are being fired. You are saying that Kelly wanting his full buyout is not normal behavior?
This is normal. BKs side aired out their “selective information” for public support aka similar to Kyren Lacys lawyer did regarding releasing the video. BK already said he wants to settle.
This isn’t going to court, the two parties finding a settlement.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:12 am to LSBoosie
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They were negotiating, but could not come to terms. Once they realized they weren't going to reach an agreement, BK's lawyers gave LSU a deadline to basically formally fire him. LSU didn't do it by the deadline and instead informed BK's representatives that they intend to fire him with cause.
Where are you getting this information from?
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:13 am to OceanMan
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Well why is LSU’s offer not how negotiations work?
Did I say it wasn't. They made offers and if reports are true, he countered. They were negotiating.
Then, at least if claims by Kelly's attorneys are true(notice I said "if"), LSU changed tactics and changed the game to possibly firing with cause.
I am neutral on this in that both parties have obvious flaws and my first post you responded to laid that out.
My prediction is a settlement is reached between the $43 and $30 million mark, probably closer to the $30 million. And, I wonder if LSU had countered the $43m at say $32m, would Kelly's team have dropped a number that then they both agreed upon.
Regarding Lump sum vs the contracted buyout. Of course a lump can be better for Kelly and the more he gets the better it is for him. This is not some rocket science that some believe it is. You've got boosters willing to part with millions of dollars. They aren't sitting there with financial calculators and excel spreadsheets figuring out small percentage points if the buyout is $30M or $33M. This is drop in the bucket money for them.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:18 am to LSBoosie
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LSU is refusing to actually fire Kelly because they are desperately searching for reasons to fire him with cause.
LSU has said from the beginning that the terms of separation are being negotiated. They have not formally terminated him because they have not agreed to those terms. And yes, this is normal.
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I don't see that happening with all the other coaches that are being fired.
Perhaps it’s the coaches behavior that may be an anomaly here?
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You are saying that Kelly wanting his full buyout is not normal behavior?
He wants more than that. And no, saying you are open to negotiating and refusing to do so is not normal behavior.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:25 am to OceanMan
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LSU has said from the beginning that the terms of separation are being negotiated. They have not formally terminated him because they have not agreed to those terms. And yes, this is normal.
. Your stance is that firing with or without cause is what is being negotiated? quote:
Perhaps it’s the coaches behavior that may be an anomaly here?
How so? By asking your employer to be definitive on how they are firing you, with or without cause?
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And no, saying you are open to negotiating and refusing to do so is not normal behavior.
Reports are that he countered their offer and LSU responded with changing the discussion from a settlement to "hold up, we might just fire you for cause."
Do you realize how ridiculous this is? Apparently not.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:27 am to cajuntiger1010
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This is normal.
Is it? Which other coaches is this currently happening with?
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:36 am to OceanMan
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LSU has said from the beginning that the terms of separation are being negotiated. They have not formally terminated him because they have not agreed to those terms. And yes, this is normal.
We know. They negotiated back and forth and couldn't come to an agreement. Then BK's lawyers gave the deadline to LSU. Which other coaches aren't being formally fired because the school is trying to come up with a reason to fire them with cause? A lot of coaches have been fired this year, so if it's normal there should be a few examples of this currently happening.
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He wants more than that. And no, saying you are open to negotiating and refusing to do so is not normal behavior.
He wants more than his buyout? Lol. How much more does he want? They went back and forth and couldn't come to an agreement.
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