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Who/when decided that that play had to be overturned?

Posted on 5/25/24 at 4:51 pm
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12838 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 4:51 pm
The rule seems to have been applied correctly based on the “judgment” call. Take that out of the equation.

Did they just get together 2 minutes after and say “wait someone messed that up” ? Did they meet immediately after it went to commercial break and people watching just didn’t see it? Did SC alert them and say something?

Why was that even done?

Nobody is talking about this part of it. Announcers just kept talking about the rule and it being applied right. But why was it even up for discussion to begin with?
This post was edited on 5/25/24 at 4:57 pm
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
10600 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 4:54 pm to
If Jeff Head was involved, you can bet it was fricked up!
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
34135 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 4:55 pm to
That’s my biggest criticism. I want to see on replay when home plate ump called the balk in real time. Usually on a balks the umps are screaming it and stop all play.

He watched the play, called out. Let everyone run off the field and go to commercial…what was he waiting on? None of the other umps had an angle or should matter in the conversation.

Such bullshite
Posted by patchesohoulihan_007
Member since Jul 2015
2210 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 4:56 pm to
The rule wasn’t applied correctly. The rule is there so the catcher can’t set up and block the plate while waiting on the ball.

Watch the replay, the path from third base is open (he never steps on or in front of the plate) once he catches the ball he advances down the third base line to make the tag.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46652 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 4:57 pm to
I think south Carolina coach went to talk to the umps after the call...
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
17823 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 4:57 pm to
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Who/when decided that that play had to be overturned?


Dewey, Cheatham, and Howe, out of the SEC office in Birmingham.
Posted by patchesohoulihan_007
Member since Jul 2015
2210 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 4:58 pm to
And no, South Carolina went along business as usual. The ump never made the call out and instead advanced towards the mound to have a conference with the others.

Didn’t see exactly what happened, I noticed the ump didn’t make the call right away. SEC network showed a replay then went to commercial and came back to the ump conference.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12838 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

Watch the replay, the path from third base is open (he never steps on or in front of the plate)


He maybe had a toe in front of the base. It was a judgment call and they judged he was in front of the plate. Whatever.

That’s not the point of the post.
Posted by MarTiger
Maryville,TN
Member since Oct 2007
71 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 4:58 pm to
I was down the left field line. Their coach came out of the dugout looking for a balk call and was making a movement with his legs and arms as a pitcher that balks. After that the officials convened for half a hour to figure out what the call was and never told the stadium so all of us were left clueless.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38528 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 4:59 pm to
Is there a link to the play?
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16521 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 4:59 pm to
That’s the real question. It’s a spot call. If someone saw a balk you immediately throw up your hands and yell dead ball. You don’t wait until the teams are in the dugout. If you see it call it dead. They didn’t do that. Know why? Because they didn’t see it.
Posted by DunbartonLATiger
Member since Apr 2024
353 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 4:59 pm to
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The rule wasn’t applied correctly. T


this.

the rule will be changed to be able to review.
Posted by ATCTx
Member since Nov 2016
1076 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 5:01 pm to
I think the rule is also so the catcher doesn't get hit by the batter or interfere with him. This batter bailed out (unwisely IMO) when he should have stayed in the box. If, according to the rule, stealing home is treated like a suicide squeeze then the batter must have the opportunity to swing/bunt.

The main problem here is he did not step on the plate and the home ump obviously didn't see it, so I'm thinking a base ump called the conference and they decided to call it.

It's just a terrible judgment call in that situation. If you're going to call it, you better be damned sure he was on the plate.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12838 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 5:01 pm to
quote:

If someone saw a balk you immediately throw up your hands and yell dead ball. Y


It technically wasn’t a balk on the pitcher though right? The catcher interfered so the result was the same as a balk.

WHEN DID THEY DECIDE TO DISCUSS THE CATCHER INTERFERENCE
Posted by patchesohoulihan_007
Member since Jul 2015
2210 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

I was down the left field line. Their coach came out of the dugout looking for a balk call and was making a movement with his legs and arms as a pitcher that balks. After that the officials convened for half a hour to figure out what the call was and never told the stadium so all of us were left clueless.


I would bet that’s a reaction to the ump not making any call directly after the fact. but that’s all speculation.

Anyways, no matter what they need a rule change. They can’t expect a catcher to stay in his stance until the ball arrives in a squeeze situation.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12838 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 5:03 pm to
quote:

Anyways, no matter what they need a rule change. They can’t expect a catcher to stay in his stance until the ball arrives in a squeeze situation.

He doesn’t have to stay squatted down. Just can’t cross or be on the plate. He barely was today if he even was.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16521 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

It technically wasn’t a balk on the pitcher though right? The catcher interfered so the result was the same as a balk. WHEN DID THEY DECIDE TO DISCUSS THE CATCHER INTERFERENCE


It’s both. Either way, if the catcher interfered you call it immediately. It’s a spot call that is immediate and ball is dead. If you see it you instantly call it. It’s like a fair or foul ball down line. They didn’t see it in real time or they would have immediately called it. They didn’t which means none of them immediately saw anything.
Posted by patchesohoulihan_007
Member since Jul 2015
2210 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

It's just a terrible judgment call in that situation. If you're going to call it, you better be damned sure he was on the plate.



Also can we discuss why in todays sports with 1000 angles there are non reviewable calls. I understand the perspective of not wanting to stop for every little thing and undermining the referee/umpire.

However the flip side is this you run the risk of costing a team a trip to a conference championship when you have the opportunity to get the right call.
Posted by scorb
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
1235 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 5:07 pm to
It's just such a stupid interpretation of the rule. When the batter bailed out, it shouldn't have mattered what happened after that. The ball beat the runner by a week. It makes no sense to award a run that was totally undeserved.
Posted by lctiger
Member since Oct 2003
3313 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 5:07 pm to
Ump signaled out
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