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re: Who was the best Defensive Coordinator LSU has ever had?

Posted on 5/9/25 at 9:04 am to
Posted by Laman1978
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 9:04 am to
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He doesn’t belong anywhere near the conversation of best DC’s at LSU
I sure as hell didn't say that! I was responding to the guy that brought up his name. I'd have traded House for someone like Chavis in a heartbeat. He at least understands the college game well. We'd have another national championship. And there were plenty of DEs that looked good under Chavis.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 9:05 am to
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Maybe he wasn’t ready to be a DC at the time, but his short tenure was marred by a lame duck head coach and a team that checked out too.


So this makes him the best DC LSU has ever had?


Where was he the DC before LSU?

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He’s the defensive passing game coordinator for the Vikings.


You realize this isn't really a thing? It is a made up title to make someone feel good.

The weird cult follow ppl have here for this guy is amazing. I could see if he had accomplished something but he hasn't
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 9:06 am to
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Process", its implementation and administration IS coaching virtuosity.

No doubt. An even better measure than that is victory. But anytime coaches are discussed this way, some are talking about overall success and some are talking about Xs and Os. It leads to arguing that is more about misunderstanding than it is about disagreement. This phenomenon is what led Voltaire to say, “If you want to converse with me, first define your terms.”
Posted by TheHarahanian
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 9:13 am to
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As for Arky, there were 13 NFL players on that roster, chief among them Darren McFadden and Felix Jones. Nobody stopped those guys. They ran riot over the entire SEC.

Arkansas was 8-5 that year, 4-4 in conference. They lost to Missouri in the Cotton Bowl.

If the clock hadn’t hit all zeroes they’d still be running on Pelini’s D.
Posted by Gaspasr1
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 9:18 am to
Arnsparger was the best
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 9:22 am to
Chavis won’t get the credit he deserves because of 2013 with DJ Welter and how he left to A&M

Chief is a quality dude. He doesn’t get enough credit for the turnaround that happened in 2014, either.
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 9:23 am to
Aranda isn't getting enough credit.

2016: 2nd in SP+ defensive
2017: 8th
2018: 22
2019: 17

2019 and 2018 were thinner talent-wise and had injuries. When healthy 2019 shut down a statistically elite OU offense and more or less locked up clemson in the second half of the title game

Saban/boom is clearly 1, chavis is probably two for 10/11 but Aranda was pretty damn good at LSU.

He is sure as shite better the Bo was. Bo inherited some loaded defense at LSU
This post was edited on 5/9/25 at 9:25 am
Posted by SouthernInsanity
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 9:25 am to
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Who was the best Defensive Coordinator LSU has ever had?


Just don't ask who was the worst ot this place will stroke out. Lots of very sensitive people around here.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 9:32 am to
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I say Saban
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were the best defensive minds. As head coaches obviously their DCs did exactly what they directed them to do.


correct.

#1 D in 2003 saban and willie B.

pellini had the #3 D in 05, 06 07.

chavis had the #2 D in 2011.

aranda kept the PPG low like steele did at auburn. they did not focus as much on yards as PPG.

Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
16094 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 9:39 am to
Charles Y. McClendon.

He couldn’t have cared less about offense but he knew his defense.
If you thought Les Miles was stubborn about offense, good ol Charley Mac took the cake.
Posted by sarussell01
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2021
846 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 10:43 am to
Definitely overrated. Our defense got better after he left.
Posted by sarussell01
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2021
846 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 10:44 am to
Cholly Mac
Posted by sarussell01
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2021
846 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 10:47 am to
Nah Aranda should be up there in top 3-4 at least. Muschamp was good but not without Saban.
Posted by sarussell01
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2021
846 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 10:50 am to
Yes but how good was he without Saban? He didn’t do well on his own after that. Look at when he was at South Carolina. He’s also Co-DC at Georgia. If he was so good, they wouldn’t need two DC.
Posted by sarussell01
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2021
846 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 10:52 am to
Steele also coached at LSU as DC under Miles.
Posted by sarussell01
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2021
846 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 10:55 am to
Also, you’re forgetting the game has changed. With spread offenses and elite passing games, it’s made it difficult to keep the PPG low even for schools like Georgia with elite defenses.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
10629 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 10:59 am to
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Nick Saban with Will Muschamp was a fun combo


#1 Defense. 11 PPG Allowed. 250 YPG. ELITE
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 11:03 am to
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Yes but how good was he without Saban? He didn’t do well on his own after that. Look at when he was at South Carolina. He’s also Co-DC at Georgia. If he was so good, they wouldn’t need two DC.


he did well as DC at texas and auburn.

willie B is not HC material. we knew that after the failure in gainesville. why did SC hire him is mind blowing.
Posted by Tigerpaul1969
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Jan 2010
4662 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 11:08 am to
This is correct. Saban and Arnsparger were the best defensive minds, and I think you add Cholly under the same rationale. Some of those 60s Ds were absolutely smothering albeit in a far different and less aggressive offensive era. But his Ds were really still very good even in his lean years. Who can ever forget the infamous 3-0 affair with Bama in ‘79?

Also, without Aranda, 2019 looks a lot more like 2023 than 1958, so he deserves his props as well.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 11:15 am to
arnsparger was good in NFL also with giants, miami's no name defense and with the chargers, but that was a different time.

at LSu we basically never blitzed then and played a basic 3-4 defense, with some nickel and dime as needed i am sure. i remember the 3-4 well.

saban is a master of blitz packages
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