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re: Who was LSU's last "freak" (athlete)?
Posted on 8/11/09 at 12:29 am to sixer
Posted on 8/11/09 at 12:29 am to sixer
quote:Do you believe that hand-eye coordination, manual dexterity, reaction speed, timing and vision are not athletic talents, too?
I have noticed that a lot of people don't really get this concept, especially older guys
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Posted on 8/11/09 at 12:32 am to crazyLSUfan
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steve korte? Give me a f'n break
You don't remember being mesmerized by Korte's freakishness when he arrived at LSU?
Posted on 8/11/09 at 12:42 am to King Joey
Absolutely they are. But in using sfp's criteria we are not really talking about a scenario where say a guy stands 20 yards from me with his back turned. I fire a football at him and he spins around and makes the catch, where hand eye coordination, reaction and all the things you list would be important. We are just saying how well does this guy combine speed, strength, jumping ability, etc.
And listen, there are different ways of defining a great athlete. In this case we are talking about football related athletic tests, which sfp listed. Now they do alot of on field drills at the combine too, but we are not really taking those into account, I'm pretty sure we are just looking at the numbers testing.
And listen, there are different ways of defining a great athlete. In this case we are talking about football related athletic tests, which sfp listed. Now they do alot of on field drills at the combine too, but we are not really taking those into account, I'm pretty sure we are just looking at the numbers testing.
Posted on 8/11/09 at 12:42 am to SlowFlowPro
The answer is still Ross Neltner.
Posted on 8/11/09 at 12:59 am to BayouBengals03
xavier carter, 4 NCAA titles at the 2006 outdoor championship . the only other athlete to accomplish such a feat was jessie owens.
100m, 100x4, 400m, and 4x400m
he ran some of those events just hours apart too.
100m, 100x4, 400m, and 4x400m
he ran some of those events just hours apart too.
This post was edited on 8/11/09 at 1:00 am
Posted on 8/11/09 at 1:03 am to sixer
quote:SlowFlow insists that they are not part of "athleticism." That, among many other things, is why we consider him absurd.
Absolutely they are
quote:And SlowFlow insists that those are the only measures of athleticism.
We are just saying how well does this guy combine speed, strength, jumping ability, etc
quote:Not according to SlowFlow.
And listen, there are different ways of defining a great athlete.
quote:Yes, we know. And that is an absurd standard to use as the defining measure of "athleticism." To say -- as SlowFlow does -- that someone cannot be a "freak" athlete without those specific numbers is ridiculous.
I'm pretty sure we are just looking at the numbers testing.
Posted on 8/11/09 at 1:07 am to lsu xman
Yes, I would consider Xavier a freak athlete too.
And I'll throw out a name that has some potential, Drake Nevis. If he worked hard on his 40 time he could put up some nasty numbers. That guy is explosive.
And I'll throw out a name that has some potential, Drake Nevis. If he worked hard on his 40 time he could put up some nasty numbers. That guy is explosive.
Posted on 8/11/09 at 5:47 am to sixer
Kenny Davidson is another.......
Posted on 8/11/09 at 6:25 am to sixer
quote:
sfp's criteria
Posted on 8/11/09 at 6:54 am to crazyLSUfan
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This is the stupidest, vaguest, comical thread that was probably started by the first poster to be a rational discussion that has turned into a laughing stock due to the inability of said poster to communicate effectively what it was he was looking for... I am now dumber for reading 8 pages of it and I quit...
My general rule regarding these long arse threads is that there is probably a lot of stupid going on, but unfortunately my curiosity makes me like a moth to a flame. I'm reminded of a couple of quotes when it comes to these sort of threads:
o Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. And
o You can fool some of the people all the time and you can fool all of the people some of the time and usually that's enough.
There's a lot of fooling going on here.
This post was edited on 8/11/09 at 7:03 am
Posted on 8/11/09 at 7:02 am to SlowFlowPro
Ben Voogd
Posted on 8/11/09 at 7:55 am to LSUDad
quote:
Kenny Davidson is another.......
I played with KD......holy shite was he a physical oddity! Shame he never had the fire. Gentle giant.
Posted on 8/11/09 at 8:00 am to CharlesLSU
it's funny to me how you played and you know exactly what i'm talking about but others want to say i'm an idiot 
Posted on 8/11/09 at 8:16 am to SlowFlowPro
Chris Jackson!
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..."our guys challenged eem, it was like an insult to eem. ya know what i'm talmbout?!"
sonny smith
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..."our guys challenged eem, it was like an insult to eem. ya know what i'm talmbout?!"
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This post was edited on 8/11/09 at 8:28 am
Posted on 8/11/09 at 8:39 am to cfreakinj
Posted on 8/11/09 at 9:10 am to wilceaux
Todd Kinchen
Posted on 8/11/09 at 10:19 am to truckintiger
SFP, they are missing the point and are citing those who were big hearted workers. The point is pure physical freaks.....successful or not......lazy or not.
Sean King was on the verge of a freak as well. He could absolutely fly.
Remember freaks are ultra rare.
Sean King was on the verge of a freak as well. He could absolutely fly.
Remember freaks are ultra rare.
Posted on 8/11/09 at 10:21 am to truckintiger
Haven't gotten to read through all of this, but I agree with the Kenny Davidson comment. He was something like a 2nd round pick based on the combine/workouts and I don't even know if he typically started at LSU.
Could Alan Faneca be considered a freak? He was awfully agile for a man that big and strong. I'd say he has to be close.
If Todd Kinchen had not had the knee injury he definitely qualifies and he may anyway. He was a ball of fast twitch muscles - only 6'1" and he could throw down NASTY dunks.
In a little bit different way -- but completely relevant to how his position is evaluated -- the most obvious example of a freak (which I define as "one whose workout abilities/measureables are far and way above the norm") is Jamarcus Russell. Now, this can be a good thing in terms of eventual production: John Elway. Or it can be a not so good thing: Jeff George. But JR is a freak.
Could Alan Faneca be considered a freak? He was awfully agile for a man that big and strong. I'd say he has to be close.
If Todd Kinchen had not had the knee injury he definitely qualifies and he may anyway. He was a ball of fast twitch muscles - only 6'1" and he could throw down NASTY dunks.
In a little bit different way -- but completely relevant to how his position is evaluated -- the most obvious example of a freak (which I define as "one whose workout abilities/measureables are far and way above the norm") is Jamarcus Russell. Now, this can be a good thing in terms of eventual production: John Elway. Or it can be a not so good thing: Jeff George. But JR is a freak.
Posted on 8/11/09 at 10:41 am to CharlesLSU
quote:
! Shame he never had the fire.
At 6-5 and 272 lbs. Had an unreal 40 time. Got taken in the 2nd. round. Played in the Pros' for about 7 years.
Posted on 8/11/09 at 1:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
Going old school...Charlie (4Hesiman) Alexander, 215+ lbs., sub 4.4 forty...pretty unheard of in the 70s.
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