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re: Who was LSU's last "freak" (athlete)?

Posted on 8/10/09 at 7:56 am to
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 7:56 am to
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when he has none of it himself


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the frick?


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nor has he ever played any kind of organized sport.


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the frick?


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like i said earlier. people are just making shite up in this thread


what organized team sports or otherwise have you played?

a pick up basketball game doesn't count.

call me crazy, but someone with 148,000 posts on a messageboard, doesn't strike me as "mr. athletic"



and when did you become the judge on weight for a player?

like 225 lbs is this "magical" number or something...
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 7:57 am to
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Or Jared Mitchell


nah, he's not "freakish" enough

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 7:58 am to
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Jared Mitchell

he's interesting as a sport comparison b/c he's just a guy in football, but in baseball he's a super athlete
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 8:01 am to
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what organized team sports or otherwise have you played?

baseball, football, and basketball

i also played tennis and raquetball as a kid

i played basketball for like 2 years and was asked to play on our bball team by the coach. and this is a 5A school

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call me crazy, but someone with 148,000 posts on a messageboard, doesn't strike me as "mr. athletic"

well i didn't play college athletics, and i did start posting here while in college, so...

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like 225 lbs is this "magical" number or something...

it's just the current standard of the big leagues
Posted by tigerfootball10
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 8:24 am to
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call me crazy, but someone with 148,000 posts on a messageboard, doesn't strike me as "mr. athletic"
This could be the most valid statement ever on this site.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 8:39 am to
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baseball, football, and basketball


for what teams?

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i also played tennis and raquetball as a kid


I bet you were the best at those too.

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i played basketball for like 2 years and was asked to play on our bball team by the coach. and this is a 5A school


so why didn't you?

the interwebs took up too much time?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 9:16 am to
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I bet you were the best at those too.

oh no

and raquetball ruined almost any chance i have at playing tennis again without major 1-on-1 instruction

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so why didn't you?

summer league to learn the system? i passed
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 9:25 am to
oh ok



cute thread btw
Posted by King Joey
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 10:24 am to
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so when you say, "man that kid is athletic" you mean "man that kid is a really good player"
No, I mean that the kid has a capacity to play some sport really well. If you do not have the tools to perform well in some form of athletics, then you have little athleticism, regardless of whatever numbers you may put up on a test.
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that's insane. i've NEVER heard people use athletic in that sense in real conversations
That's absolutely false, because you have heard it used routinely to describe players who excel at all sorts of sports, like Brandon Bass in Basketball, Michael Clayton in football, Jared Mitchell in Baseball, etc., etc. Coaches, announcers and fans use the term "athletic" to refer to their abilities in their respective sports all the time.

Posted by CharlesLSU
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 10:25 am to
Ro Swan's career was ended due to a FOOT/ANKLE injury.......He was they only true freshman in the SEC to ever be selected pre-season 1st team All-SEC without ever even practicing.

In HS the guy had a 215+ tackle senior year up in Shreveport.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 10:26 am to
good lord...

who was this again?
Posted by Stagg8
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 10:30 am to
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Who was LSU's last "freak" (athlete)?
does it go all the way back to cassanova?


The answer to this very well could have been Marcus Spears had he not packed on 50 pounds while at LSU. Dude came out of Southern Lab lab at 6'4" 255 and pretty cut up. Ranked something like the #1 TE in the nation and #4 power forward in the nation. The guy was an absolute freak. I don't know what his 40 actually was at that point, but supposedly somewhere around 4.6. And he had some pretty sweet touch from the baseline.
Posted by CharlesLSU
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 10:30 am to
Roovelroe Swan. Signed in 1989. 6'3" 215 lbs.

Can't recall 40 times but the guys was scary ripped up. Just had crazy instincts for a player. Extremely nice guy as well.

I played with him at LSU. While he wasn't a guy who would jar your teeth loose taking on a block, his pursuit and angles were creepy.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 10:33 am to
sad that he got hurt.

was he a highly rated player?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 10:34 am to
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That's absolutely false,

so when your'e around your friends and you see DMac blow by our defense, if you say, "man that kid's athletic" you mean "man DMac is a good player"

?

seriously?
Posted by CharlesLSU
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 11:01 am to
Oh yea. I believe he was in the top 5 LBs in the country that year as well as the #1 recruit in LA. He was VERY similar to Laron Landry (Redskin version) in appearance......sported huge arse arms for someone with rangy numbers.

Still, the biggest surprise was how meek he was.....just a cool dude.
Posted by King Joey
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 11:05 am to
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so when your'e around your friends and you see DMac blow by our defense, if you say, "man that kid's athletic" you mean "man DMac is a good player"
You just asked this question, and I just answered it. Again, I will answer, "no." What I mean is that he has the ability to excel in a sport (in this case, football, though I expect DMac could excel in some others as well).

Why do you keep asking questions about people using athletic to mean "good player" when NO ONE has ever suggested that at all?

I would spell it out clearly for you (again) but you already understand it. You are pretending to be stupid to continue the argument and draw out the thread length. If you did not already know that you were deliberately bullshitting, you would have provided an example of someone using the term "athleticism" to mean what you are claiming it means. And you haven't, because you know it's complete bullshite.

Posted by EasyE
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 11:11 am to
ME bitches
Posted by Bayou Bengal 72
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 1:29 pm to
I was a kid when Billy Cannon was a Tiger but I remember a quote that described him as "either the strongest sprinter or the fastest shot putter" they had ever seen.

I would name mid-1930's LSU football player and track star Jack Torrance who held the shot put world record for almost fourteen years as LSU's original FREAK athlete. He set the world record (16.80 meters) in 1934, only three days after the previous record had been set. He raised it twice more that year.

Torrance was one of the five athletes that made up LSU's 1933 NCAA Championship Track & Field team, coached by Bernie Moore He also won the shot put again in 1934 with that first world record. Torrance was on the 1936 U.S. Olympic Team that went to Berlin but he never equaled his personal best and didn't medal but his world record wasn't broken until 1948.




Shot Put World Record Progression ( at Wikipedia.com)

16.48 m John Lyman (USA) 21 April 1934 Palo Alto, U.S.[1]

16.80 m Jack Torrance (USA) 24 April 1934 Des Moines, U.S.[1]

16.89 m Jack Torrance (USA) 30 June 1934 Milwaukee, U.S.[1]

17.40 m Jack Torrance (USA) 5 August 1934 Oslo, Norway[1]

17.68 m Charlie Fonville (USA) 17 April 1948 Lawrence, U.S.[1]
Posted by King Joey
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 1:31 pm to
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Shot Put World Record Progression
Yeah, but what was his 40 time at the combine.

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