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re: Who was LSU's last "freak" (athlete)?
Posted on 8/10/09 at 7:56 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/10/09 at 7:56 am to SlowFlowPro
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when he has none of it himself
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the frick?
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nor has he ever played any kind of organized sport.
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the frick?
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like i said earlier. people are just making shite up in this thread
what organized team sports or otherwise have you played?
a pick up basketball game doesn't count.
call me crazy, but someone with 148,000 posts on a messageboard, doesn't strike me as "mr. athletic"
and when did you become the judge on weight for a player?
like 225 lbs is this "magical" number or something...
Posted on 8/10/09 at 7:57 am to Roaad
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Or Jared Mitchell
nah, he's not "freakish" enough
Posted on 8/10/09 at 7:58 am to Roaad
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Jared Mitchell
he's interesting as a sport comparison b/c he's just a guy in football, but in baseball he's a super athlete
Posted on 8/10/09 at 8:01 am to TheDoc
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what organized team sports or otherwise have you played?
baseball, football, and basketball
i also played tennis and raquetball as a kid
i played basketball for like 2 years and was asked to play on our bball team by the coach. and this is a 5A school
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call me crazy, but someone with 148,000 posts on a messageboard, doesn't strike me as "mr. athletic"
well i didn't play college athletics, and i did start posting here while in college, so...
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like 225 lbs is this "magical" number or something...
it's just the current standard of the big leagues
Posted on 8/10/09 at 8:24 am to TheDoc
quote:This could be the most valid statement ever on this site.
call me crazy, but someone with 148,000 posts on a messageboard, doesn't strike me as "mr. athletic"
Posted on 8/10/09 at 8:39 am to SlowFlowPro
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baseball, football, and basketball
for what teams?
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i also played tennis and raquetball as a kid
I bet you were the best at those too.
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i played basketball for like 2 years and was asked to play on our bball team by the coach. and this is a 5A school
so why didn't you?
the interwebs took up too much time?
Posted on 8/10/09 at 9:16 am to TheDoc
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I bet you were the best at those too.
oh no
and raquetball ruined almost any chance i have at playing tennis again without major 1-on-1 instruction
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so why didn't you?
summer league to learn the system? i passed
Posted on 8/10/09 at 10:24 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:No, I mean that the kid has a capacity to play some sport really well. If you do not have the tools to perform well in some form of athletics, then you have little athleticism, regardless of whatever numbers you may put up on a test.
so when you say, "man that kid is athletic" you mean "man that kid is a really good player"
quote:That's absolutely false, because you have heard it used routinely to describe players who excel at all sorts of sports, like Brandon Bass in Basketball, Michael Clayton in football, Jared Mitchell in Baseball, etc., etc. Coaches, announcers and fans use the term "athletic" to refer to their abilities in their respective sports all the time.
that's insane. i've NEVER heard people use athletic in that sense in real conversations
Posted on 8/10/09 at 10:25 am to Ponchy Tiger
Ro Swan's career was ended due to a FOOT/ANKLE injury.......He was they only true freshman in the SEC to ever be selected pre-season 1st team All-SEC without ever even practicing.
In HS the guy had a 215+ tackle senior year up in Shreveport.
In HS the guy had a 215+ tackle senior year up in Shreveport.
Posted on 8/10/09 at 10:26 am to CharlesLSU
good lord...
who was this again?
who was this again?
Posted on 8/10/09 at 10:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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Who was LSU's last "freak" (athlete)?
does it go all the way back to cassanova?
The answer to this very well could have been Marcus Spears had he not packed on 50 pounds while at LSU. Dude came out of Southern Lab lab at 6'4" 255 and pretty cut up. Ranked something like the #1 TE in the nation and #4 power forward in the nation. The guy was an absolute freak. I don't know what his 40 actually was at that point, but supposedly somewhere around 4.6. And he had some pretty sweet touch from the baseline.
Posted on 8/10/09 at 10:30 am to TheDoc
Roovelroe Swan. Signed in 1989. 6'3" 215 lbs.
Can't recall 40 times but the guys was scary ripped up. Just had crazy instincts for a player. Extremely nice guy as well.
I played with him at LSU. While he wasn't a guy who would jar your teeth loose taking on a block, his pursuit and angles were creepy.
Can't recall 40 times but the guys was scary ripped up. Just had crazy instincts for a player. Extremely nice guy as well.
I played with him at LSU. While he wasn't a guy who would jar your teeth loose taking on a block, his pursuit and angles were creepy.
Posted on 8/10/09 at 10:33 am to CharlesLSU
sad that he got hurt.
was he a highly rated player?
was he a highly rated player?
Posted on 8/10/09 at 10:34 am to King Joey
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That's absolutely false,
so when your'e around your friends and you see DMac blow by our defense, if you say, "man that kid's athletic" you mean "man DMac is a good player"
?
seriously?
Posted on 8/10/09 at 11:01 am to SlowFlowPro
Oh yea. I believe he was in the top 5 LBs in the country that year as well as the #1 recruit in LA. He was VERY similar to Laron Landry (Redskin version) in appearance......sported huge arse arms for someone with rangy numbers.
Still, the biggest surprise was how meek he was.....just a cool dude.
Still, the biggest surprise was how meek he was.....just a cool dude.
Posted on 8/10/09 at 11:05 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:You just asked this question, and I just answered it. Again, I will answer, "no." What I mean is that he has the ability to excel in a sport (in this case, football, though I expect DMac could excel in some others as well).
so when your'e around your friends and you see DMac blow by our defense, if you say, "man that kid's athletic" you mean "man DMac is a good player"
Why do you keep asking questions about people using athletic to mean "good player" when NO ONE has ever suggested that at all?
I would spell it out clearly for you (again) but you already understand it. You are pretending to be stupid to continue the argument and draw out the thread length. If you did not already know that you were deliberately bullshitting, you would have provided an example of someone using the term "athleticism" to mean what you are claiming it means. And you haven't, because you know it's complete bullshite.
Posted on 8/10/09 at 1:29 pm to The Savant
I was a kid when Billy Cannon was a Tiger but I remember a quote that described him as "either the strongest sprinter or the fastest shot putter" they had ever seen.
I would name mid-1930's LSU football player and track star Jack Torrance who held the shot put world record for almost fourteen years as LSU's original FREAK athlete. He set the world record (16.80 meters) in 1934, only three days after the previous record had been set. He raised it twice more that year.
Torrance was one of the five athletes that made up LSU's 1933 NCAA Championship Track & Field team, coached by Bernie Moore He also won the shot put again in 1934 with that first world record. Torrance was on the 1936 U.S. Olympic Team that went to Berlin but he never equaled his personal best and didn't medal but his world record wasn't broken until 1948.
Shot Put World Record Progression ( at Wikipedia.com)
16.48 m John Lyman (USA) 21 April 1934 Palo Alto, U.S.[1]
16.80 m Jack Torrance (USA) 24 April 1934 Des Moines, U.S.[1]
16.89 m Jack Torrance (USA) 30 June 1934 Milwaukee, U.S.[1]
17.40 m Jack Torrance (USA) 5 August 1934 Oslo, Norway[1]
17.68 m Charlie Fonville (USA) 17 April 1948 Lawrence, U.S.[1]
I would name mid-1930's LSU football player and track star Jack Torrance who held the shot put world record for almost fourteen years as LSU's original FREAK athlete. He set the world record (16.80 meters) in 1934, only three days after the previous record had been set. He raised it twice more that year.
Torrance was one of the five athletes that made up LSU's 1933 NCAA Championship Track & Field team, coached by Bernie Moore He also won the shot put again in 1934 with that first world record. Torrance was on the 1936 U.S. Olympic Team that went to Berlin but he never equaled his personal best and didn't medal but his world record wasn't broken until 1948.
Shot Put World Record Progression ( at Wikipedia.com)
16.48 m John Lyman (USA) 21 April 1934 Palo Alto, U.S.[1]
16.80 m Jack Torrance (USA) 24 April 1934 Des Moines, U.S.[1]
16.89 m Jack Torrance (USA) 30 June 1934 Milwaukee, U.S.[1]
17.40 m Jack Torrance (USA) 5 August 1934 Oslo, Norway[1]
17.68 m Charlie Fonville (USA) 17 April 1948 Lawrence, U.S.[1]
Posted on 8/10/09 at 1:31 pm to Bayou Bengal 72
quote:Yeah, but what was his 40 time at the combine.
Shot Put World Record Progression
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