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re: Who makes the “days rest” rules?
Posted on 6/23/23 at 2:10 pm to Gray Tiger
Posted on 6/23/23 at 2:10 pm to Gray Tiger
he was a fitness nut, he would stay after games and ride the stationary, do cool down workouts, he had great stamina, even towards the end
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 2:11 pm to tigerbacon
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It’s the combination that would be tough. He’s not use to throwing on 4 days rest let alone 3. However he could pitch about 25 pitches on Monday since that would be his bullpen day normally
Coming in for some spot duty Monday if needed is the only scenario left.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 2:13 pm to lsudocts
He may not start game 3 but I see absolutely no way he doesn't come in if it's close and we have a lead to seal the deal
Posted on 6/23/23 at 2:14 pm to 777Tiger
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most mlb gms think college coaches abuse and overuse college pitchers, I don’t share that opinion
Of course they feel that because they view college as a feeder system for developing players, not for winning. They don't care what college teams do to win. They only care what they do to improve arms for MLB teams to harvest. It's bullshite. We have a right to use our players to win too.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 2:16 pm to lsudocts
The people who want to protect his arm and MLB career for starters.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 2:18 pm to jlovel7
again, I don’t share their opinion, I just know that’s the prevailing opinion, a friend of mine (former LSU pitcher,) had a long ML career, he and his peers all say that when they began working with their new pro teams that a common sentiment was “we were holding our breath hoping we could get you here before Skip ruined your arm” 
Posted on 6/23/23 at 2:30 pm to jlovel7
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We have a right to use our players to win too.
Do we have a right to ruin their careers?
Posted on 6/23/23 at 2:30 pm to jlovel7
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We have a right to use our players to win too, no matter if it screws up their arms and costs them a professional career.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 2:31 pm to tigerbacon
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However he could pitch about 25 pitches on Monday since that would be his bullpen day normally
So 50 pitches
Or 4 innings
Posted on 6/23/23 at 2:37 pm to tigerbacon
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However he could pitch about 25 pitches on Monday since that would be his bullpen day normally
Because bullpen work is as intense as games?
Posted on 6/23/23 at 2:40 pm to Gray Tiger
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Nolan Ryan threw 235 pitches in one game. Pitched for 20 years in MLB.
How old was he when he did those 235?
How long had he been in MLB at the time?
Were there any long or short term side effects of that outing?
Quoting a single statistic is not any level of "scientific" proof.
It was in 1974, 3 days later Ryan pitched 6 innings, and he managed to have a sorta good career after. I think Ryan is a good comparison since he and Skenes seem to share some mechanics, Skenes throws from his legs like Ryan and like Ryan has big legs and thighs. IMHO that gives hime the ability to throw longer in a game, and will probably give him longer life as a player.
Nolan Ryan threw 235 pitches in one game. Pitched for 20 years in MLB.
How old was he when he did those 235?
How long had he been in MLB at the time?
Were there any long or short term side effects of that outing?
Quoting a single statistic is not any level of "scientific" proof.
It was in 1974, 3 days later Ryan pitched 6 innings, and he managed to have a sorta good career after. I think Ryan is a good comparison since he and Skenes seem to share some mechanics, Skenes throws from his legs like Ryan and like Ryan has big legs and thighs. IMHO that gives hime the ability to throw longer in a game, and will probably give him longer life as a player.
This post was edited on 6/23/23 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 6/23/23 at 2:42 pm to lsudocts
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F the GMs. I think he comes in relief if its close late on monday. Whatever he and JJ decide im on board with.
100%
Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:02 pm to lsudocts
God
Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:05 pm to tigerfan88
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is equally as absurd
Equally absurd. No need for the “as”.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:07 pm to BigBinBR
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Technically he could pitch on 0 days rest. But that doesn’t mean that he should.
Actually, he can’t. It’s against the rules. He has to have three days rest, minimum, because he threw more than 76 pitches.
College Pitch Count Rules
Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:08 pm to lsudocts
As much as I love Skenes and would love to see him pitch again in a Tiger uniform....let's just win Sat and Sunday and eliminate the need for him!
Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:09 pm to CharlestonTiger
jolly good idea, old chap 
This post was edited on 6/23/23 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:15 pm to lsudocts
I think it they had Skenes throw way more off speed pitches yesterday so he could throw some on Monday.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:16 pm to Menatiger
that’s not how this works
Posted on 6/23/23 at 3:23 pm to 777Tiger
Skenes throws an "easy" 100 mph. If you compare him to other power pitchers, you'll see them whipping their arms so hard that they fall off the mound after releasing the ball.
Skenes uses his tree trunks for legs more than most pitchers and stays on balance on almost all of his pitches, because he is not giving max effort on each pitch. IMO, that is why he has such good control and can throw so many pitches without losing velo. His control is remarkable, actually. It's all in his mechanics. Pitchers are more prone to injuries as their arms get tired and they have to put even more effort into each pitch.
Compare Skenes to Lowder, or Chase Dollander. Barring something freaky, Skenes should have a long major league career. He's already built for going deep into games - it's not like he doesn't have a fully mature body. I think he'll be good to go if he comes into the game on Monday. My concern is him coming into a relief situation. mentally and physically, it's a different approach than starting. I don't know that you can assume he'll pitch as well running out to the bullpen, rushing through warmups and then going right to the stretch with runners in scoring position.
Skenes uses his tree trunks for legs more than most pitchers and stays on balance on almost all of his pitches, because he is not giving max effort on each pitch. IMO, that is why he has such good control and can throw so many pitches without losing velo. His control is remarkable, actually. It's all in his mechanics. Pitchers are more prone to injuries as their arms get tired and they have to put even more effort into each pitch.
Compare Skenes to Lowder, or Chase Dollander. Barring something freaky, Skenes should have a long major league career. He's already built for going deep into games - it's not like he doesn't have a fully mature body. I think he'll be good to go if he comes into the game on Monday. My concern is him coming into a relief situation. mentally and physically, it's a different approach than starting. I don't know that you can assume he'll pitch as well running out to the bullpen, rushing through warmups and then going right to the stretch with runners in scoring position.
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